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Old 09-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #1
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Gear overhaul.. suggestions??

I'm currently playing through a Peavey Triple X half stack with a LTD DV8. I don't do as much gigging as I used to, so I've been thinking about downsizing. I was thinking about a 2x12 combo (and maybe a pedal...) that can be ran into another 2X12 to simulate a 4x12 - or any other sort of setup that would be good for playing venues if I were to start back up. Any ideas on amps?
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:37 PM   #2
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:44 PM   #3
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Budget wise? I'd like to stay under 400. Genres? Mostly Metal, but something versatile would be nice. Defiantly cool with used gear. Home use primarily, but possible gigging. 45 mins. away from Indianapolis.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:53 AM   #4
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Can I ask why you want to downsize? I mean, if you might start gigging again, why not just sell your 4x12 and get a 2x12? Even then, you're only saving some vertical room and weight. I just really don't understand what you're trying to accomplish with this. You want to get rid of a head and 4x12 cab so that you can get a head built into a 2x12 combo and then a 2x12 cab to go with it? I don't see that as downsizing in any way. You are simply cutting your 4x12 in half and putting your head in half of it. If you're looking a different amp, you might want to mention what you like/dislike about your current amp. If it's only downsizing, you want to change and not your tone, sell the 4x12 and get a 2x12.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:31 PM   #5
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A Peavey XXX is probably better than anything you'll find under 400... I agree with ^^. Just get a 2x12 with your 4x12. Or just keep the 4x12 and buy a 2x12 with you 400.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:19 PM   #6
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A Peavey XXX is probably better than anything you'll find under 400... I agree with ^^. Just get a 2x12 with your 4x12. Or just keep the 4x12 and buy a 2x12 with you 400.


Gotta agree with the above two posters. Sell the 4x12 and buy a 2x12... Chances are with the money you get from the sale and the money you've already got you may actually be able to buy a 2x12 that sounds better than the old 4x12 did.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:47 PM   #7
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Gotta agree with the above two posters. Sell the 4x12 and buy a 2x12...


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2x12 combos are very heavy indeed.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:22 PM   #8
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:56 PM   #9
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When my randall was a combo it weighed 68 pounds when it died and chopped the amp into a 212 it now weighs 30 lbs. I guess it depends on the 212 I guess.
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When my randall was a combo it weighed 68 pounds when it died and chopped the amp into a 212 it now weighs 30 lbs. I guess it depends on the 212 I guess.


Offworld's old 6505/5150 212 combo weighed about 85lbs. They aren't the most fun things to move around

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You have volume controls for a reason. If you can play at home with a 2x12, you shouldn't have any issues with a 4x12. You're looking at roughly the same floor space for either.
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My Jet City 2x12 weighs in at about 60 or 70lbs, which is about the same as my Egnater head. I imagine that means that a 4x12 is gonna be around 100 to 120lbs. The only time I even think a 2x12 is an advantage over a 4x12 is if you are limited on space in your transportation method, if you're on a budget, if you really can't handle that much more weight, if you live in a cave with a low ceiling, or if you're really short and can't reach the controls if your amp is on a 4x12. TS, you can apparently handle the weight and can transport it. You already have a 4x12, so budget isn't really the problem. The 4x12 has fit in your house so far and you can apparently reach the controls. If you're happy with your tone, I can't see why you would change anything.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:25 PM   #12
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My Jet City 2x12 weighs in at about 60 or 70lbs, which is about the same as my Egnater head. I imagine that means that a 4x12 is gonna be around 100 to 120lbs. The only time I even think a 2x12 is an advantage over a 4x12 is if you are limited on space in your transportation method, if you're on a budget, if you really can't handle that much more weight, if you live in a cave with a low ceiling, or if you're really short and can't reach the controls if your amp is on a 4x12. TS, you can apparently handle the weight and can transport it. You already have a 4x12, so budget isn't really the problem. The 4x12 has fit in your house so far and you can apparently reach the controls. If you're happy with your tone, I can't see why you would change anything.


I've tried those before... The head is only about 50lbs and the cab maybe 45lbs... It's fairly rare that a head is much more than 50lbs... The only ones that weigh more than that that I can think of are the Roadster and Roadking which are 60-65lbs at most.

Anyway... As far as 4x12s go the weight can vary depending on what you go for. There are a lot of really light ones that don't seem to be much more than 50lbs, and then there are monsters like my Mesa which weighs in at 100+

As for them sounding better than a 2x12, well that's kind of a mixed bag. They'll definitely spread more sound around and sound bigger, but they also tend to deafen anyone directly in their path with a rather nasty and harsh sound.

Personally I prefer 2 2x12s at each edge of the stage. All the pros of a 4x12 but none of the cons.
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A 4x12 and 2x12 made to the same specs are pretty much gonna sound the same. There isn't some huge difference between them. Maybe some VERY subtle differences, but I doubt it's something that anyone could pick out, especially in a full band mix. As for the weights, the shipping weight for my amp head was 72lbs, iirc, and i doubt that over 10lbs of that was the box and a few foam pieces. My cab was 67lbs iirc. I suppose i could just go weigh them, but it seems unnecessary.

I'm not sure where you're getting this "4x12's deafen with harsh sound" business. If you're having a problem like that, you definitely need to turn your treble down.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:00 AM   #15
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