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Old 09-08-2012, 11:41 AM   #1
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Which od/dist pedal should I buy? (Joyo vs J&H vs Lovepedal)

Ok, on my neverending journey to find a good quality pedal at a good value, I found some good quality od/dist pedals in the form of the Joyo US Dream ($60), Visual Sound Jekyll and Hyde V3 ($100), and the Lovepedal Eternity ($120). The latter two I saw at my local Guitar Center used. Right now I'm currently leaning towards the Jekyll and Hyde since the guitarist I'm trying to emulate the sound of uses it for his distortion as well as it being in the middle price range.

I have about $100 to spend at the moment so if I were to get the Lovepedal, it might be a couple months before I can buy it. I was hearing some PGS demos and that thing just sounds killer. And of course, I'm considering the Joyo since it's cheap and sounds pretty good.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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No experience with the Joyo, but it gets generally good reviews so far.

My experience with Lovepedal's dist / OD pedals is rather negative, noise to sound ratio is among one of the highest among OD pedals I've owned so far... which is rather disappointing considering:
1. their booteeq-ness
2. how they love to restrict pedal numbers by only producing limited quantities
3. their price point.

I've heard quieter MXR and Boss OD / dirt pedal. Hell, i've heard quieter pedals with scratchy connections.

Lovepedal - YMMV

Jekyll and Hyde - pretty neat pedal. Decent sounding, plus you get 2 pedals in 1. Although I don't really care much for their buffer. That said, for a dirt pedal, a buffer isn't always 1 priority, given your tone change once you engage it.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:23 AM   #3
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do all lovepedals get noisy? Or rather how noisy does it get, especially for single coil users? I mean I'll get to try them out at the store, but it's good to know the pros and cons for everything. As for the J&H, have you tried the first, silver version? There's also the V1 there for about $80. I've heard some say that the latest (V3) J&H doesn't sound as good as the V2 version.
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The v3 is much less noisy, there also is a slight gain difference so its a trade off but its worth if you are using a tube amp because it is a bit noisy.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:02 AM   #5
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Do you still have it Kitteh? Reducing the noise may be a simple matter of replacing the resistors with metal film ones. I don't know about that pedal specifically but you often find that bootique stuff will use shitty old carbon resistors because they have more "mojo." They tend to be noisy little shits though which is why most modern gear uses metal film now. Carbon resistors are little white noise generators.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:59 AM   #6
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Do you still have it Kitteh? Reducing the noise may be a simple matter of replacing the resistors with metal film ones. I don't know about that pedal specifically but you often find that bootique stuff will use shitty old carbon resistors because they have more "mojo." They tend to be noisy little shits though which is why most modern gear uses metal film now. Carbon resistors are little white noise generators.


I still have it Cath... the noise level made me despise the little poo-poo.

When I turn the tone controls up... it gets noisy. Although from my limited experience with the pedal, I think its actually a treble booster rather than a usual tone control.

When I turn the gain up... it gets noisy.

When I turn the volume up, I start hearing the background noise even more prominently.

Little piece of trud.

Its one of the pedals I regret ever hunting down.

You think you can do something to it Cath? I'm going to be down yonder in mid-October... possibly Sydney, Melbourne as well as Canberra. If you can work some magic on it... I can drop it off with you, along with postage fee back to Singapore.
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:07 AM   #7
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the joyo is an awesome distortion for the price. i picked it out for my drummer.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:21 AM   #8
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As far as the lovepedal goes, since you didn't really identify which pedal it was, you are talking about the Eternity right? Just making sure about it. And so I'm having a bit of trouble deciding on going for the the J&H or the Joyo because I really do like the price of the Joyo, making it the biggest draw, but then again I like the features and sound of the J&H as well.
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I still have it Cath... the noise level made me despise the little poo-poo.

When I turn the tone controls up... it gets noisy. Although from my limited experience with the pedal, I think its actually a treble booster rather than a usual tone control.

When I turn the gain up... it gets noisy.

When I turn the volume up, I start hearing the background noise even more prominently.

Little piece of trud.

Its one of the pedals I regret ever hunting down.

You think you can do something to it Cath? I'm going to be down yonder in mid-October... possibly Sydney, Melbourne as well as Canberra. If you can work some magic on it... I can drop it off with you, along with postage fee back to Singapore.

I could always try. It's amazing what simply upgrading the quality of the components can do.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:42 AM   #10
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I own the Kanji9... but I've also tried a few Lovepedal OD/Dists like the Eternity... I think there was one other which was a supposed clone of the Klon (can't recall its name now) and another one a few years back.

From what I recall, they were't exactly silent, but my Kanji9 is plenty noisy. I'm quite sure if I took the others home and hooked them up, they wouldn't exactly be silent either.

I personally would never touch a Lovepedal again. Again never tried a Joyo - maybe cause I'm a little elitist about Joyos being copies... but the J&H is a neat pedal.

I recall trying the J&H in 2009 so I'm not sure when it was. I recall that the OD didn't have that "too much gain" feel that some ODs have. While the OD section was a little smooth for my liking back then (YMMV), the distortion side a little smooth and had a little too much grit for my liking. However, the distortion isn't over-powering that it covers up your amp's base characteristic... and overall, the feature-to-price ratio pretty good. Again the one thing that really turned me off was how the buffer sounds, but again YMMV. I personally don't think its much in terms of being a pro-level pedal, but for everything else, it's plenty good.
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I could always try. It's amazing what simply upgrading the quality of the components can do.


Great, I'll need to fix up my work appointments then get back to you on when I'll be around your parts... speaking of which... where are you? Perth? ACT?
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I personally would never touch a Lovepedal again. Again never tried a Joyo - maybe cause I'm a little elitist about Joyos being copies... but the J&H is a neat pedal.


er... isn't the J&H a tubescreamer combined with a shredmaster?

I mean, if you don't like joyos because they're copies, that's your prerogative. But it seems a bit inconsistent to complain about joyos for being copies and then praising other pedals which are no less copies (and which are more expensive to boot).

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I read somewhere a while back that the J&H V2 and V3 had lifetime warranties on them? Confirm/deny? Does anyone know if the US Dream hisses at high gain? I got an American Sound and noticed it would get really hissy once you turn up the drive and voice, which isn't really bad for my use for it, but I'm kinda worried about the US Dream hiss factor.
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Great, I'll need to fix up my work appointments then get back to you on when I'll be around your parts... speaking of which... where are you? Perth? ACT?

Bendigo. That's in central Victoria (about an hour's drive from Melbourne).
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