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Old 08-28-2012, 09:27 AM   #1
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Celestion Vintage 30's

Just wondering what kind of an effect swapping out my stock G12t-75's in my 1960 cab for the vintage 30's would have. Would it give me a more modern sound? Sorry this isn't very in depth, but I'm at work and must hurry!
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:50 AM   #2
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V30 = even tone intended to push the core frequencies more. A broad hump across all the mids with the extreme treble and bass tapering off pretty dramatically.
T-75 = made for maximum definition. Strong upper-mid spike.

You'll basically get a smoother and thicker sound, but it may not cut through as well and the bass will be a little softer, perhaps even muddy depending on the guitar/amp/settings.

If anything, the T-75s are the more modern-sounding of the two.

What you can try, since you have a 4x12, is have two of each. This is a pretty popular set up.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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Diagonal setup or 2 over 2?
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:31 AM   #4
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Depends on how you want the sound to spread out. Diagonal will be the most balanced, obviously.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:41 PM   #5
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I strongly disagree with the T-75's sounding more modern. I put some V30s in my 1960, and the tone difference is amazing. It makes the amp sound much more open, and in my mind, how the amp should sound. Granted, it's not to everyones taste, but IMO you'll be pleasantly surprised by the V30s!
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:41 PM   #6
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Every review I've read about them has been very negative though. And since I haven't really played through these speakers that's all I have to go on. They kept referencing the g12h or something and I'm just trying to get away from that classic voicing and looking for something more modern sounding.
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I find the V30s to be warmer and the T75s to really cut through
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It makes the amp sound much more open, and in my mind, how the amp should sound
That's sort of the problem. "Should sound" equates to "what I've heard before". It doesn't actually equate to accuracy. This is why it's right to say that the T-75 is a more modern tone; the wider response at the extremes , and the big upper-mid spike, are characteristics not commonly found in pre-80s recordings. The broad mid hump of the V30s is commonly found in pre-80s recordings.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:08 AM   #9
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it's all down to preference at the end of the day. if you get chance, try a cab with V30s!
IMO, V30's and T75s are polar opposites, and the fact you're looking at upgrading your speakers, means there's something you don't like with the T-75s, so chances are you'll like em. Personally i won't ever go back to t-75s!
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:03 AM   #10
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Try swapping 2 out like has been said.

V30's and G12t75's pair up great togeather. Bogner uses them in the Ubercab which sounds amazing.

V30's and G12h30's work good also, but it is a little more vintage sounding, but this is one of my favorite combos.

V30's and K-85/K-100's (same speaker) is really good for modern metal and drop tune stuff.

V30's and 12-65's are my personal favorite combo of celestions.

Just remember if your in the US, Avatar speakers has the Hellatone 60 and Hellatone 30 for $100 each. These are actual Celestion V30 (hellatone 60) and Celestion G12h30 (hellatone 30) That have been slightly broken in. There is also WGS which make the Veteran 30 (V30) for $65 and many other Celestion clones for 1/2 the price. These are very good speakers.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:53 PM   #11
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T75's have a cutting treble that slices through.
V30's have a cutting upper midrange that slices through.
T75's have tight lowend
V30's have a slightly looser lowend.
T75's have little to no midrange.
V30's have a medium level of treble, which is often confused with the strong upper midrange.

New V30's sound stiff and harsh. They need close to 100 hrs of play time on them before they relax and loosen up.

I would get two V30's and put them in an X pattern in the cab.
Then if you like that, keep it. If you really like the V30's, then buy two more.
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