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Old 09-10-2012, 09:27 PM   #1
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3 Note per String Ideas?

I just recently switched from boxed positions to 3 note per string shapes for the scales I know. I really like using them because of how fast you can play them, but I'm kind of stuck in a rut when improvising with these shapes. Does anyone have any interesting licks when it comes to 3 note per string scales, preferably run patterns? Thanks.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:28 PM   #2
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Learn the scale all over the fret board then make up your own runs.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:29 PM   #3
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Try playing laterally instead of vertically. Single string ideas.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:30 PM   #4
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learning the scales would be helpful
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:32 PM   #5
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Paul Gilbert. He is all about that 3nps shit, uses them in everything and he has some good tuition DVDs that you might like.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:37 PM   #6
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Meh, go right to four notes per string. Then you'll be cruisin up and down the fretboard as well as across. There are those who advocate this approach...though I'm not much on the whole scalar mindset.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:36 AM   #7
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learn your 3 strings per note exercises first
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:39 AM   #8
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I just recently switched from boxed positions to 3 note per string shapes for the scales I know. I really like using them because of how fast you can play them, but I'm kind of stuck in a rut when improvising with these shapes. Does anyone have any interesting licks when it comes to 3 note per string scales, preferably run patterns? Thanks.


I can only think of a couple of answers.

1. The scales repeat through the fretboard, learn the fretboard.

2. Most "box" positions include 3 notes per string parts.

3. You're just talking about ways to get from one note to the next
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:37 PM   #9
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I try to combine shapes in diagonals so I'm working vertical, horizontal, and across different shapes. This helps connecting shapes, understanding where root notes are, etc. Look at the standard major scale shapes. Most strings have 3 notes but the ones with 2 you can extend into the next shape (or previous) and make it 3 notes. Working them out for myself helped me learn how to connect them better and understand how to play across them easier.

As for runs, just play some sort of pattern like play 4-5 notes up the scale, then go back 3 and back up 4, etc. By messing with it you'll find patterns and ideas you like.

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Old 09-11-2012, 12:58 PM   #10
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Collect a selection of different strings, easily obtainable from your closest stationary store.

Have a paper pad handy or open up a word document.

Give the types of strings headings and mark in 3 bullet points underneath each one.

Make notes on the strings and report back here with your findings, I'm looking forward to hearing your results.

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Old 09-11-2012, 05:51 PM   #14
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I just recently switched from boxed positions to 3 note per string shapes for the scales I know. I really like using them because of how fast you can play them, but I'm kind of stuck in a rut when improvising with these shapes. Does anyone have any interesting licks when it comes to 3 note per string scales, preferably run patterns? Thanks.



Your problem is you aren't thinking like a musician. Until you do, you're faking it. Playing fast isn't the same as creating music. You're going to burn out.

When you play fast next time without thinking or listening I want you to think the following words as you do so:

"widdle...widdle...widdle"

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Old 09-11-2012, 11:05 PM   #17
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here's a 3 note per string idea, from the master himself no less:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...kk9Q0Qd_k#t=78s

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here's a 3 note per string idea, from the master himself no less:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...kk9Q0Qd_k#t=78s


Here's the thing though, and the point Sean is trying to get across to the TS.

It's not "a 3 note per string idea".

It's "a melodic idea that uses a 3 note per string pattern for ease of execution". That may seem a subtle, even pedantic difference but it means everything. Musicians have ideas, they use techniques to make those ideas musical reality. What you don't do is throw a load of tecnhiques at your fretboard and hope something good comes out.

Guitar isn't purely a physical pursuit, it's primarly mental - if you open your mouth without thinking and just start making random noises sobody's going to know what you're on about and the same goes for playing a musical instrument....you have to have at least some idea of what it is you're trying to convey. Until you start treating the guitar as a musical instrument and taking responsibility for your own creativity and the musical end product you'll never be much of a guitarist.

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