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Old 09-13-2012, 08:21 AM   #21
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I can see where he is coming from, am I right in saying you play in a cover band?

If so I would not blame you for getting a nice light easy to handle amp with a floor unit... There is no point in carrying heavy expensive and easily damaged gear around to pub/club gigs where most people couldnt tell the difference any way...
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Good tone is important, but that last 10% between 'sounds good' and 'holy **** this is amazing' basically only matters to you....and perhaps other guitarists in the audience.

When I record original material with the 'serious' band, the studio I go to has a ton of amazing vintage amps and cabs so I'm covered.


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so i really cant blame you. if i ever had really high end gear and pulled a move like that i would probably buy axe FX.


Funny, I've just been looking at an Eleven Rack - not as good as the Axe, but a whole lot cheaper.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:17 AM   #22
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Good tone is important, but that last 10% between 'sounds good' and 'holy **** this is amazing' basically only matters to you....and perhaps other guitarists in the audience.



Ya know what you mean, no point bringing a hand wired marhsall and a box of bouique pedals to a pubs where they will get hosed down with beer.

And yes it is only other guitarists who notice this kinda stuff!! Ah they will find something to give out about...
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:45 AM   #23
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Good tone is important, but that last 10% between 'sounds good' and 'holy **** this is amazing' basically only matters to you....and perhaps other guitarists in the audience.

That's so true. Once you're in the ballpark it really is only gonna matter to you. I don't think other guitarists will even notice that much as long as you sit in the mix properly. I saw a guy perfom live with a Flextone one time and I'd bet if I sat down and played his presets I'd be less than impressed... But hearing him in the mix, I was blown away. He had some really great sounds dialed in, and you could tell he worked hard to make them fit with the overall sound the band was going for.

If I were gigging I'd probably have a Flextone or a Vetta... Its just too convenient not to. I'll always want my tube amps at home though.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:59 PM   #24
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Good tone is important, but that last 10% between 'sounds good' and 'holy **** this is amazing' basically only matters to you....and perhaps other guitarists in the audience.

When I record original material with the 'serious' band, the studio I go to has a ton of amazing vintage amps and cabs so I'm covered.


Yeah, but it's not like it's not important. Even though the audience doesn't know or care, it's still gonna bother you if it doesn't sound right to your ears, and that's really important IMO.


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Funny, I've just been looking at an Eleven Rack - not as good as the Axe, but a whole lot cheaper.


If the point is to save $$$ I'd rather have a POD HD than an 11R.



All this said, I still honestly believe that the Vypyr Tube sounds better than any of the L6 amps. The Vetta/HD147 may be a contender, but the Vypyr owns the Flextones/Spider Valves IMO.

The only downside to the VYpyr is that it's really not deep at all compared to L6's higher end stuff. Not being able to use a compressor and a tubescreamer at the same time sucks ass.
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