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Old 09-13-2012, 06:47 AM   #1
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Major Scale/fretboard question

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So im wondering, if i play an Amajor Chord with the root on the 6th string, 5th fret in the key of A.
Will then the IV degree Chord(Dmajor) (or any other chord in the scale of A but for sake of example) when played with the root on the 5th string, same fret, be in the same "pattern"? or does the fretboard-layout/key/major scale reset for every chord thats being played?
I really dont know how to explain this better, so i hope you guys know what i mean.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:20 AM   #2
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so i hope you guys know what i mean.

...Yes, it will all be in the same pattern.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:22 AM   #3
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Ok let me see here,
These are the patterns in intervals in the key of A of a I, IV. Both ranging from the 4 to the 8th fret( dmaj pattern).
When i play these two chords in a progression after each other and i embellish them while playing, will the IV chord be injected into the I Chord A major shape/pattern/ or will it change because the root changes and so become and revolve around the secon pattern?
If so won't this actually change the key everytime i change a chord?

Amajor Chord I
7-8---2
---5---6
2---3-4
6---7-8
3-4---5
---1---2


Dmajor Chord IV
---5--6--
---2--3-4
6---7-8-
3-4---5-
7-1---2-
---5---6

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Old 09-13-2012, 07:44 AM   #4
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will the IV chord be injected into the I Chord A major shape/pattern/

Yes, it will become impregnated causing a hostile takeover.
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alright thanks a bunch, made things clearer.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:51 AM   #6
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The actual note A can be found one the 6th string, 5th fret. Consider what implications this has for the A major chord and other chords.

It's handy to know the notes on the fretboard as well as the shapes.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:13 PM   #7
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Yeah get to know that 6th string. Guess what with the 6th and 5th roots you will know the 1st as well. One thing to keep in mind obviously is that the strings are a fourth apart so under A is D and so on.
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Yeah get to know that 6th string. Guess what with the 6th and 5th roots you will know the 1st as well. One thing to keep in mind obviously is that the strings are a fourth apart so under A is D and so on.


Except for G (3rd string) to B (2nd string) thats a major third apart.
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The actual note A can be found one the 6th string, 5th fret. Consider what implications this has for the A major chord and other chords.

It's handy to know the notes on the fretboard as well as the shapes.


read it again, I know all the notes on the fretboard, i just asked if the key resets or if it stays in the same Key/position, when playing a different chrod from the scale on the same fret, a string beneath.
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key =/= position

Notes are notes, chords are chords.

An A major chord is an A major chord no matter where you play it, an A note is an A note no matter where you play it - positions don't actually mean anything.
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yeah i get that. i asked if the major scale of the key changes or resets into a different key for every respective chord played in a progressions, in terms of embellishment.
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Ignore shapes, learn the notes on the guitar neck and learn the notes in major and minor scales. You can visualize the shapes once you know the notes.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:44 AM   #13
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Amajor Chord I
7-8---2
---5---6
2---3-4
6---7-8
3-4---5
---1---2


Dmajor Chord IV
---5--6--
---2--3-4
6---7-8-
3-4---5-
7-1---2-
---5---6

K, I'm being serious now, sorry for the piss taking answer earlier.

Can you explain these tabs a little better, please? Cuz they don't make sense.
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K, I'm being serious now, sorry for the piss taking answer earlier.

Can you explain these tabs a little better, please? Cuz they don't make sense.


The first tab is the fretboard in the key of A, starting with the root on the fifth fret displayed in intervals, right.
The second tab is the fretboard in the key of D starting from the root(D) on the same Fret but on the fifth string, okay?


My question is, when playing and embellishing the Amajor and the Dmajor chord in the key of A, both being played with their respective root on the fifth fret, will they change the key from A to D? in other words, will the fretboard change into Tab2 when the D chord is played after being in Tab1 when the A was being played?

Lord, its probably a redicilous question, but i wanna be sure.

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yeah i get that. i asked if the major scale of the key changes or resets into a different key for every respective chord played in a progressions, in terms of embellishment.

Changing chords doesn't equate to changing key, no.
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My question is, when playing and embellishing the Amajor and the Dmajor chord in the key of A, both being played with their respective root on the fifth fret, will they change the key from A to D? in other words, will the fretboard change into Tab2 when the D chord is played after being in Tab1 when the A was being played?

Lord, its probably a redicilous question, but i wanna be sure.

Depends.
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read it again, I know all the notes on the fretboard, i just asked if the key resets or if it stays in the same Key/position, when playing a different chrod from the scale on the same fret, a string beneath.


So what do you think a key is? I ask this because I have no idea now what you're asking.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:21 PM   #20
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the diatonic major key of A i would describe as 7 notes and all their octaves based out of the 12 tone scale, being A B C# D E F# G#, thus creating the A major scale.
Regarding to the Guitar and how its tuned all of them mapped out over the fretboard would unvoluntary create a big shape over the fretboard, that is my understanding of it till now, i have played for 2 years so there might very well be something im missing but i think i got the answser i needed from mdc's "depends". It depends if i want to change key or not, but all the chords of the A major key fit into the scale(duh) and their shapes. So i think i got what i needed.
Sorry for confusing everybody

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