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Old 09-14-2012, 05:14 PM   #1
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Is this add9?

I'm expanding chord vocabulary by learning chords from a Guitar World mag I own and I want to see if I got it
Is this a Gadd9?:
e:3
B:0
G:2
D:0
A:2
E:3

I'm asking this because I don't why I'm kinda unsure of the ninth. The ninth is the second an octave higher right?

Don't judge, I played power chords most of the time so I'm not an expert here but I think I know something.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:16 PM   #2
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Yes that's right.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:17 PM   #3
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:21 PM   #4
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Well, it doesn't really matter what octave the added note is, the chord will still be called add9.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #5
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:29 PM   #6
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:30 PM   #7
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It's an add 9 because it's just like it sounds, a normal triad with the 9th (or 2nd like you said) added to it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:05 AM   #8
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Why do people call it a 9th instead of a 2nd, and 11ths instead of 4th?

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, but I just don't want to create a new one for a simple question.

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Old 09-15-2012, 12:19 AM   #9
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Why do people call it a 9th instead of a 2nd, and 11ths instead of 4th?
A "sus4" chord contains NO 7th, it's a triad. Before you can have a chord of the "11th" you must have a 7th. So, the light bulb should have just gone on, and rather brightly, when you suddenly realized that 7 + 4 =11.

This holds true also for "13th" chords. In that case, the chord must contain a 7th, and a 6th.

Sometimes "add9" chords are referred to as "sus2". Don't know exactly the logic there, perhaps someone else can clear that up for you. But yeah, a 9th" is also a "2nd".

It's possible the issue resides on whether the 3rd of the triad is played. This is just a guess, but I'm thinking that "Gsus2" contains no 3rd, and "Gadd9" does. (Again, just a guess).
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:08 AM   #10
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It's possible the issue resides on whether the 3rd of the triad is played. This is just a guess, but I'm thinking that "Gsus2" contains no 3rd, and "Gadd9" does. (Again, just a guess).

Yes, sus2 and sus4 chords don't have a 3rd, as it is "suspended."

On the other hand, add chords always have a third because they just tack on (or "add") an extension to the basic major or minor triad.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:26 AM   #11
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Why do people call it a 9th instead of a 2nd, and 11ths instead of 4th?

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, but I just don't want to create a new one for a simple question.

What rockingamer2 said...

Basically you use a number outside the spelling of the basic chord. So if the basic chord you're working with is a triad 1 3 5 or 1 b3 5 then whatever is added is outside those chords (unless you're replacing one of those chord tones such as in a sus2 or sus4)

You can voice it however you want but when you spell the chord you spell it from the bottom up and you write your base chord first and then any add ons or extensions and so when adding a to the triad it will be a 9 11 or 6.

They are notated as Cadd9, Cadd11, or C6. Sometimes we add both the 6th and the ninth to a chord this would be written as C6/9 1 3 5 6 9.

Do you know the difference between an extended chord and an add chord?
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:35 AM   #12
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Yeah but suspended chords don't exist for some people.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:23 PM   #13
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Yes, sus2 and sus4 chords don't have a 3rd, as it is "suspended."

On the other hand, add chords always have a third because they just tack on (or "add") an extension to the basic major or minor triad.
Bingo.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:16 PM   #14
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Why do people call it a 9th instead of a 2nd, and 11ths instead of 4th?


Chords are defined as a stack of thirds. Root to third is obviously a third, third to fifth is likewise a third interval. Fifth to seventh is a third, but seventh to second isn't, but if you move it up an octave and make it a ninth then it is. Likewise about the 11th vs. Fourth. It's just a technical thing really is all.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:31 PM   #15
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I love the effect add9 chords adds to triads! Minor add9 chords are just as cool in the gloomy!

This is also very cool if one plays a standard Am arpeggio and add the B note, either at the end or in the arpeggio - very cool thread.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:51 PM   #16
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Superimposition of Cmaj7 and Em7 arps add a touch of 9th and 11th sounding, respectively.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:37 AM   #17
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Yeah but suspended chords don't exist for some people.


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Chords are defined as a stack of thirds.


Unless you're using quartal harmony.

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For 95% of musicians chords are defined as a stack of thirds.


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For anyone who's not being deliberately awkward, chords are defined as a stack of thirds.


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