fretshredda

Hey forum

I want an all tube head 30-60W. I want something which is medium-high gain (think SLash, Page, Iommi) something that delivers harmonics and chunk but isn't overbearing and loses clarity; that classic british tone with some extra bite. I guess im just chasing that vintage tone. Anyway, i want it to be around 800-1100 Australian dollars. I would prefer something non-chinese. I don't mind checking out 2nd hand markets although they are pretty lacking in Australia. So far i've got three which i'm considering

- Orange TH30 (i know that's chinese :S)
-Laney Ironheart 60
- marshall vintage modern 50w (i'll have to search around, but it's pheaseable)

Please don't suggest stuff like the JCM800 2nd hand. As much as i love that raw rock n roll tone, it's just too loud. I'll be using it with 2x12 cab, for both gigging in a small venue and home use. SO yeah, if anyone could add to or help me out, it would great. Cheers Guys

also, please no solid state...just no

TY guys

fretshredda

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Eppicurt

You realise the JCM800 has a master volume?

A Vintage Modern needs to be cranked to sound any good, low volumes it's pretty bad. If you're after British voicing the Orange might be way to go, but the TH30 requires a certain taste, it's not for everyone. Do you have a chance to try any of them out?

I'd count out the Ironheart. It's not suited to what you want.

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fretshredda

This is all from what i've heard, i haven't actually ever played a JCM800 (which is kinda sad). I like having lots of gain on tap hence why i've included the ironheart. I also forgot to mention..i hate having lots of knobs e.g. TSL, JVM style panels, the ironheart would be the limit in terms of amount of knobs. But anyway, what makes you rule out the ironheart?

Eppicurt

Compared to what else can be had, it's just not as good. I thought the sound was pretty fizzy and thin, all the knobs on it were loose and wiggly and speakers that come stock with them are crap. Just a very cheap sounding and cheaply manufactured amp. Granted if it had a speaker swap and a tube swap, might be better. But still not a fan. Also for the type of sounds you're describing, it won't suit as well as something like the Orange.

But like I said, do you have a chance to try it out?

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fretshredda

i do but it's a bit of a trek so i want to have a clear idea of what i'm looking for. The main concern with the Orange was maybe a lack of versatility, i'm not sure. Any other suggestions

Eppicurt

Classic 50 212 is always a good option. They can be had used well within budget.

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korinaflyingv

A Laney GH50L would probably suit you very well. TH30's are also excellent from what I've heard at gigs, never played one myself though.

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Dave_Mc

the ironheart is chinese. I haven't tried it, but i also hear it's on the more modern side of things in terms of tone.

laney gh50/100L would be cool if you don't need an actual clean channel.

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*cough* Egnater Rebel 30 *cough*

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Laney GH50l
Laney AOR

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ihartfood

I'd go for TH30. How important are cleans?

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fretshredda

cleans just have to resembles cleans i guess. Something which is ok for rock rhythm, it doesn't have to be crystal clear. It's not the strong point. I would prefer two channel, or something which a dynamic range like the VM. How is the gain on the egnater series? Is it along the lines of TH30

fretshredda

I can actually get a Tourmaster for $800 AU, thoughts?

Deledhel

ENGL Gigmaster/Thunderhead
Egnater Rebel/Renegade

PS: check the Tourmaster definitely. It's an awesome amp.

beckyjc

Cleans on the TH30 are great.
The dirt is gritty, excells at mid-high gain. It'd cover what you want, low gain leaves a bit to be desired. Its quite versatile, but mostly more on the modern end of the scale but you can dial it in to do old school stoner stuff great, the shape knob sounds best between 10 and 2 oclock. A proper EQ would go a long way i feel.

If youre chasing that JCM tone though i'd +1 to the Laney AOR.

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kyle62

This is just plain dumb, sorry.


100W valve amps are very loud. 60W valve amps are very loud. 30W valve amps are very loud. 15W valve amps are very loud.

That's why we have 'master volune'.

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Perverockstar69

Laney GH50 and Vintage Modern will do for you as well as the TH30. JCM800 will sound better though... REALLY!

Try them first.

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Quinlan

I'm going to 3rd the AOR. Hits classic rock tones well and has more than enough gain on tap. You may want to run an EQ or volume pedal to help tame the volume, but they're usually pretty affordable, so that shouldn't be an issue.

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