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Old 04-20-2013, 03:35 PM   #1
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What's the meaning of this?

Trying again to find answers, the songwriting forum didn't respond

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Prosody 101

When they taught me that what mattered most
was not the strict iambic line goose-stepping
over the page but the variations
in that line and the tension produced
on the ear by the surprise of difference,
I understood yet didn't understand
exactly, until just now, years later
in spring, with the trees already lacy
and camellias blowsy with middle age,
I looked out and saw what a cold front had done
to the garden, sweeping in like common language,
unexpected in the sensuous
extravagance of a Maryland spring.
There was a dark edge around each flower
as if it had been outlined in ink
instead of frost, and the tension I felt
between the expected and actual
was like that time I came to you, ready
to say goodbye for good, for you had been
a cold front yourself lately, and as I walked in
you laughed and lifted me up in your arms
as if I too were lacy with spring
instead of middle aged like the camellias,
and I thought: so this is Poetry!

What is the meaning of this? What literary elements does the dude use to do what she wants to do? This is very important

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Old 04-20-2013, 03:40 PM   #2
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:42 PM   #3
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:50 PM   #6
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Poetry isn't about fancy or flower language, nor is it all about holding proper meter and diction. Utilizing common language as well as more superfluous language gives you variation and tension. Tension and release, like in music, is very important in literature. Having a poem that's very lyrical and has complex language in the beginning can be improved by common language. The change can accent and bring attention to certain lines or words. The expectation of more complex language clashes with what is actually happening, common language, and makes you read some things differently as well as cause tension.

tl;dr poetry isn't about being proper and complex. It takes variation and careful crafting.

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Old 04-20-2013, 03:53 PM   #7
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:42 PM   #8
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What literary elements does the dude use to do what she wants to do? This is very important



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Old 04-20-2013, 08:33 PM   #14
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Contrast, comparison, polar interpretation?


I don't know. Just use really nice and fancy words.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:40 PM   #15
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Just got back, and what have we here? An entire thread dedicated to insulting me? How polite of the UG forum!

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Poetry isn't about fancy or flower language, nor is it all about holding proper meter and diction. Utilizing common language as well as more superfluous language gives you variation and tension. Tension and release, like in music, is very important in literature. Having a poem that's very lyrical and has complex language in the beginning can be improved by common language. The change can accent and bring attention to certain lines or words. The expectation of more complex language clashes with what is actually happening, common language, and makes you read some things differently as well as cause tension.

tl;dr poetry isn't about being proper and complex. It takes variation and careful crafting.


Wow, I'm horrible with poetry.


What does the part that says

"and the tension I felt
between the expected and actual
was like that time I came to you, ready
to say goodbye for good, for you had been
a cold front yourself lately, and as I walked in
you laughed and lifted me up in your arms
as if I too were lacy with spring
instead of middle aged like the camellias,
and I thought: so this is Poetry!"

mean?


By the way, this is for the SAT II Literature Test, which tests high-school students on their ability to comprehend archaic poetry and stuff like that, and I couldn't find any explanation for this poem, which appears almost every time on the test.
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Just got back, and what have we here? An entire thread dedicated to insulting me? How polite of the UG forum!



Wow, I'm horrible with poetry.


What does the part that says

"and the tension I felt
between the expected and actual
was like that time I came to you, ready
to say goodbye for good, for you had been
a cold front yourself lately, and as I walked in
you laughed and lifted me up in your arms
as if I too were lacy with spring
instead of middle aged like the camellias,
and I thought: so this is Poetry!"

mean?


By the way, this is for the SAT II Literature Test, which tests high-school students on their ability to comprehend archaic poetry and stuff like that, and I couldn't find any explanation for this poem, which appears almost every time on the test.

the poet is using weather as a metaphor for the dynamics of his or her relationship with someone; this relationship had been 'cold,' but on this occasion the poet was surprised to be treated warmly. this surprise is analogous to the pleasurable surprises that constitute poetry, which is the main theme of the poem.

maybe some one can help me now? i am studying for the sat test too, and what does this poem mean?

my pomeranian tiger
comes to rest
at my shoulder
bearing bad news
of the war
in iraq

and my beloved tiger
with his streaks of
narrow silver
he reminds me
of the middle
of the road

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Old 04-22-2013, 10:23 PM   #17
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Protip: Poetry rarely has definite meaning. It's interpretation.
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:12 PM   #18
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It doesn't mean anything, no poems do.
They're just random sentences.
The people who write them sit back and laugh at peoples interpretations of them.


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Gone are the prospects of people and their sanity.
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Well there's imagery and personification. Easy poem
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