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Old 10-03-2012, 01:30 AM   #61
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You don't recess the control cavity cover?
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:14 PM   #62
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Yes, i do. I do that after the finish is dry.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:34 PM   #63
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Just a quick question, but I noticed you set the neck and then stained, I remembered reading somewhere to stain then set the neck. Is this just matter of preference?

Build looks amazing to say the least. I am building an explorer as well, just want to make sure I don't mess it up, it's my first build, and I am going to stain it.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:52 PM   #64
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Just a quick question, but I noticed you set the neck and then stained, I remembered reading somewhere to stain then set the neck. Is this just matter of preference?

Build looks amazing to say the least. I am building an explorer as well, just want to make sure I don't mess it up, it's my first build, and I am going to stain it.

I don't see any staining, I think what you're seeing is tinted lacquer?
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:05 PM   #65
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There is no stain or tinted lacquer. Its completely clear poly that i put on it.

I have no idea why ANYBODY would ever want to stain or do any type of finish before you glued it in. You have to sand and blend the heel and sides of the neck pocket after you glue it, so that would be pointless to stain or put finish on it before. It would just all get sanded back off again.

Its always best to do all your gluing and sanding first, on any type of woodworking project.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:33 PM   #66
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There is no stain or tinted lacquer. Its completely clear poly that i put on it.

I have no idea why ANYBODY would ever want to stain or do any type of finish before you glued it in. You have to sand and blend the heel and sides of the neck pocket after you glue it, so that would be pointless to stain or put finish on it before. It would just all get sanded back off again.

Its always best to do all your gluing and sanding first, on any type of woodworking project.


Thanks for the info, I was doing some fine sanding without the two attached, but since there is nothing wrong with gluing the neck in place there seem like no time like the present. I am noticing that when I mock up my neck to the body the fretboard does not seem parallel to the body. Is this common with an explorer style build? I am assuming it will have a little angle (the tenon lies flat in the pocket but the overall neck seems angled) because of the bridge type.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:44 PM   #67
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Well, unless you angled the heel or the neck pocket, it shouldnt be angled. That is physically impossible for it to be angled unless you did that.

The bridge type doesnt create an angle. It creates a NEED for one, but you have to manually cut the angle into either the neck pocket or the heel of the neck.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:50 PM   #68
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I guess I will need to either shave the tenon or shim it to get it to become flush and parallel with the body then. Like I said his is my first build so I am bound to make mistakes, just hoping to prevent some large ones prior to setting the neck. I really appreciate the help, I don't want to clog up your build pages anymore, it would distract from your work. can't wait the see the finished product by the way.
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Dont worry about distracting from my build. One of the main reasons i post here is to help people out and show them the easier more efficient ways to do things.


If you somehow have an angle, do NOT shim it to get it flat. You DO need an angle, or else you wont be able to get the action low enough.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:56 PM   #70
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:18 PM   #71
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Dont worry about distracting from my build. One of the main reasons i post here is to help people out and show them the easier more efficient ways to do things.


If you somehow have an angle, do NOT shim it to get it flat. You DO need an angle, or else you wont be able to get the action low enough.


Ok, thats what I thought. The angle is not drastic, if I get around to it I will post pictures, in my own thread and see if that helps. Thanks for all the help.
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There is no stain or tinted lacquer. Its completely clear poly that i put on it.

Damn, that's clear? Looking at the pictures in the OP again it makes sense, but damn! The body looked like a much lighter wood, what is it?

Edit: Actually, Ecplorerbuilder? Could you give me a quick run-down of the procedures of spraying poly? Is it similar to nitro to mix and spray?
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Damn, that's clear? Looking at the pictures in the OP again it makes sense, but damn! The body looked like a much lighter wood, what is it?

You can take acetone, alcohol, or even water and apply it to bare wood to get a better idea of how it will look with a finish. It's an especially cool trick if you have a figured top and want a preview of the sexiness.
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You can take acetone, alcohol, or even water and apply it to bare wood to get a better idea of how it will look with a finish. It's an especially cool trick if you have a figured top and want a preview of the sexiness.

Yeah I know, just didn't realise it was going to be as dark as that
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Damn, that's clear? Looking at the pictures in the OP again it makes sense, but damn! The body looked like a much lighter wood, what is it?

Edit: Actually, Ecplorerbuilder? Could you give me a quick run-down of the procedures of spraying poly? Is it similar to nitro to mix and spray?



Its mostly the lightning that makes it look so light colored in the first few pictures. Take a look at the very first picture of the body that i posted. It looks about the same shade.

As far as how to spray it, there are a TON of different types of poly.
The kind i use is made for wood. It doesnt require mixing. Just have your guitar sanded, then spray.
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Its mostly the lightning that makes it look so light colored in the first few pictures. Take a look at the very first picture of the body that i posted. It looks about the same shade.

As far as how to spray it, there are a TON of different types of poly.
The kind i use is made for wood. It doesnt require mixing. Just have your guitar sanded, then spray.

Wow, that saves hassle then. What stuff is it you use?
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For these kind of finishes, where i leave the grain open and go for a semi gloss finish, I use the Minwax Poly. Its cheap and dries fast. If i am doing a gloss finish i use Sherwood conversion varnish.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:46 PM   #78
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The body looked like a much lighter wood, what is it?


Forgot to answer this. It is Mahogany, paduak and walnut.
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