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Old 09-24-2012, 01:22 PM   #1
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Do you get tired of the old bands...?

When I say 'old bands' I mean Metallica, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, etc. This is for everyone (those who listen to them and those who don't). This is not an opportunity to slam people, but merely whether you're a bit tired of them. For example, the recent 'Best metal song', or whatever it was, on UG was completely dominated by the 'old bands'. Do you feel that other bands should be given a chance in these votes or do you think that nothing tops them?
Discuss...
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:50 PM   #2
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Old generally surpasses the new in almost all circumstances... so no.

(but, we are not thinking of the same "old" )
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:51 PM   #3
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Yes and no.

I think it's kind of important to give to older bands the credit they deserve, and in my honest opinion bands like maiden and priest really do have a lot better material than most "modern" metal bands.

That being said, I also agree that it's stupid and repetitive to live exclusively in the past. Especially when it comes to music. As a result I tend to separate my interest in bands based on the era that they were/are prominent in. When someone asks me what bands I'm into I usually reply "old bands or newer ones?" and then answer accordingly.




Hearing about how awesome hollowed be thy name is for the 50th time can get a little annoying, but on the other hand hollwed be thy name is a pretty awesome song.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:55 PM   #4
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I don't think timeframe should be considered. Overall quality irrespective of how old they are.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:09 PM   #5
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I don't think timeframe should be considered. Overall quality irrespective of how old they are.

Pretty much this. Older bands deserve their credit for creating the foundations of heavy metal but they are still the best for a reason.

Currently listening to "Metal Storm/Face the Slayer" and I feel the riffs just blow newer releases out of the water.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:15 PM   #6
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While the older bands definitely deserve respect for the genres and timeless songs they created, I personally find a lot of newer bands to be doing really exciting stuff. However, for each good new metal band, you also get Asking Alexandria-esque bands, so it is understandable that newer metal as a whole gets slammed.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:22 PM   #7
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They are the pioneers of the genre who have influenced all of the 'new' bands that currently exist. It isn't their fault that their stuff which was written in the 80s and 90s is a lot better than what is being written now - it is up to the current bands to step up and make music good enough to detract attention from bands like Metallica, Maiden etc.

I also hate the argument with people about 80s guitarists being technically inferior to modern day players with idiots who don't understand that the 80s guitarists pushed the boundaries of playing to the points where modern day guitarists can now absorb their lessons and push it even further.

Iommi isn't a technical genius but f*****g hell can he write riffs!!

I personally won't ever get sick of listening to classic rock and classic metal albums

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Old 09-24-2012, 02:22 PM   #8
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**** yes, I got bored. Maiden and Sabbath still work for me, Paranoid and MoR are still listenable on occasion, but the old offers little these days: its already been tapped out long before we even tried. Looking backwards is almost never the way forwards, unless you're looking for the roots of your inspiration.

Most of the new sounds like the old, just computerised and streamlined to a certain formula, or 'revised', then computerised and streamlined. But depends on your source of new and old. Current underground music is almost always going to be more musically fulfilling than whatever is the highest selling album this week, and that has been the case in any decade for any genre.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:38 PM   #9
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While the older bands definitely deserve respect for the genres and timeless songs they created, I personally find a lot of newer bands to be doing really exciting stuff. However, for each good new metal band, you also get Asking Alexandria-esque bands, so it is understandable that newer metal as a whole gets slammed.

For every old band that people still worship, there existed a band just as shitty as current Asking Alexandria type bands. Bad bands have always existed, it's just that nobody remembers them.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:05 PM   #10
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Yes, I understand what you guys talk about when I say 'old'. I just didn't know how to class those bands. I could call them classics, but then some may argue whether they are... Well, I only want to know opinions =)
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:19 PM   #11
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make music good enough to detract attention from bands like Metallica, Maiden etc.


Er, there are quite a few bands better than those two. They haven't detracted attention away from the mainstream canon of metal bands because having a position in the canon has slight if any relation to quality.
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:47 PM   #12
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I rarely get permanently tired of the bands I like, but it's not uncommon for me to just not be in the mood for particular bands.

This, IMO, is why it's a good idea to have broader musical tastes, both by listening to different styles of music and listening to several different takes on the same style. Want traditional metal, but not in the mood for Iron Maiden? That's cool, I can turn to Christian Mistress or Motorhead or Dawnbringer or Slough Feg or Manilla Road instead. Don't want traditional metal? Well, I've got a lot of prog, psych, some jazz, funk, and hip-hop, some neofolk, and a little electronic... oh yeah, and every other style of metal under the sun.

Having options is good.
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For every old band that people still worship, there existed a band just as shitty as current Asking Alexandria type bands. Bad bands have always existed, it's just that nobody remembers them.

So the question then...in 15 years, will bands like Killswitch or Lamb Of God or Periphery be looked at like Metallica or Slayer or Meshuggah? Or will they just disappear?
Just kinda adding a question to the thread.
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So the question then...in 15 years, will bands like Killswitch or Lamb Of God or Periphery be looked at like Metallica or Slayer or Meshuggah? Or will they just disappear?
Just kinda adding a question to the thread.


They will be remembered by people with shitty taste in music but forgotten by the metal community because they had no relevance to it.
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Well, I've got a lot of prog, psych, some jazz, funk, and hip-hop, some neofolk, and a little electronic..


Disappointed to see this making a comeback

On topic I will never have a problem with listening to Iron Maiden
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A good band is a good band. Like Scourge said, just cuz I don't wanna listen to Sabbath now doesn't mean that I wont in a month or a year or what ever.

I think older bands DO get worshipped a little too much sometimes. It's like the argument that pop music is worse now than it was 70 years ago. It only seems that way cuz you don't remember the crap. I mean Sabbath in their time released lots of awful (by report) music for example. I vaguely remember reading about a nu-metal-esque track, luckily I've not heard it xD

I can't imagine the two mixing well.
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What's making a comeback and why is it disappointing?
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I rarely get permanently tired of the bands I like, but it's not uncommon for me to just not be in the mood for particular bands.

This, IMO, is why it's a good idea to have broader musical tastes, both by listening to different styles of music and listening to several different takes on the same style. Want traditional metal, but not in the mood for Iron Maiden? That's cool, I can turn to Christian Mistress or Motorhead or Dawnbringer or Slough Feg or Manilla Road instead. Don't want traditional metal? Well, I've got a lot of prog, psych, some jazz, funk, and hip-hop, some neofolk, and a little electronic...

Having options is good.


This. I hate it when people say things like "Yea I used to listen to them but got tired of'em so I've moved on now" and things like that. Why be so narrow minded? Why not build up a broad palette of bands and genres to draw from? But anyway I agree with your general philosophy.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:56 AM   #20
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Definitely true.

I sometimes get into a mood of searching for newer bands or some older obscure bands that I never got around to listen to, but still, often I end up listening to the older, more familiar (to me atleast) bands - kinda like how comfort food feels like.
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