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Old 09-24-2012, 07:57 PM   #81
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^ Bring it kangaroo boy from teatime land.

Paraphrasing here but Jesus said something about how laws like that were kind of distracting people from the important picture. Shellfish, pork, working on the sabbath and whatnot.


Yeah, so in Leviticus I believe when there is the only line in the Bible that mentions gays shouldn't that be a distraction too?
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:58 PM   #82
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And how were the laws about homosexuality any different?

They felt like keeping those because they don't like gay people anymore than Jews do but like eating pork?

Iirc Jesus never says anything about gay people outside of the blanket of no sexual immorality.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:59 PM   #83
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:00 PM   #84
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Yeah, so in Leviticus I believe when there is the only line in the Bible that mentions gays shouldn't that be a distraction too?

I'm not Jesus nor Christian, I was originally talking about why Christians have no problem eating shellfish.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:00 PM   #85
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They felt like keeping those because they don't like gay people anymore than Jews do but like eating pork?

Iirc Jesus never says anything about gay people outside of the blanket of no sexual immorality.

Yeah he never mentioned it
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:00 PM   #86
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What part are you referring to?


The New Testament.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:00 PM   #87
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Yeah I wouldn't consider any of the people in my class pieces of shit either, since most of them are friends. Also these kids are like 15, 16, and 17, so I don't know if it will die out.

I'm sure they will. It's like music. People will probably just listen to what their parents listen to or what their peers listen to or what the radio is playing for a majority of their youth. Then some will go and search for music on their own from different sources and probably have their tastes change a bit. Same applies for kids in relation to religion/gay marriage. Most people have really only ever known what their parents believe for most of human history. Only recently are we able to read and be exposed to things from all over the world, including different cultural and societal practices. That's the luxury of our age. You can't expect people to just change what they believe with the blink of an eye.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:01 PM   #88
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I'm starting to believe that Australia could outdo America for xeno and homophobia these days.



The same-sex marriage bill recently got passed here in Tasmania in the lower house and is going to the upper house sometime this week.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:01 PM   #89
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The New Testament.

Well I know this but I'm confused about the point you are getting at.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:03 PM   #90
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^ Bring it kangaroo boy from teatime land.

Paraphrasing here but Jesus said something about how laws like that were kind of distracting people from the important picture. Shellfish, pork, working on the sabbath and whatnot.



A senator the other day equated legalising gay marriage to legalising beastiality. He was not condemned by his party leaders, it was just a case of "he has his views and expressed them poorly"

Senate recently just stopped the equal marriage bill with a vote of something like 40-80 against.

Google the "ban the burka in Australia" facebook page and just look at the shit that gets posted.



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The treatment of your native people has been just as bad if not worse.



Technically they aren't my native people, but yea I totally agree. Myself and another Aus user (Butt Rayge) consistently get into arguments with indigenous bashing bogans on this site.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:04 PM   #91
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Well I know this but I'm confused about the point you are getting at.


The New Testament does away with most of the Old Testament laws. While things may or may not be sinful, I don't know/care, but all I was getting at was your specific argument in that one instance is a moot point.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:05 PM   #92
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I have lived in Georgia for 7 years now and I still think its a bunch of rednecks


Depends where in Ga. Middle and south western Ga. Yeah, tons of rednecks.

But I support gay marriage and I was born and raised here. So, not everyone is intolerant.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:10 PM   #93
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One area that confuses me is the relevance of homosexuality being natural or not.

This seems to be working under the (in my opinon) fallacy that all natural behaviour is either or both moral or desirable.

What does it matter if homosexuality is natural or not?

For the record, I believe homosexuality is more a psychological development (to be clear, not pathological in nature) that may be contributed to genetically.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:10 PM   #94
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Gay marriage got passed 80-40 in NZ pretty recently Jambi, so you guys really shouldn't be too far off.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:23 PM   #95
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:24 PM   #96
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Gay marriage got passed 80-40 in NZ pretty recently Jambi, so you guys really shouldn't be too far off.



Yea but New Zealand is a much cooler place so I'm not expecting much
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:35 PM   #97
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The New Testament does away with most of the Old Testament laws. While things may or may not be sinful, I don't know/care, but all I was getting at was your specific argument in that one instance is a moot point.


It is. Christians interpret the Bible many different ways, and they have different justifications for that.

What he should have said was that your religion doesn't excuse you from being an ignorant piece of shit.

Well maybe not a piece of shit.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:37 PM   #98
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Yea but New Zealand is a much cooler place so I'm not expecting much

It's hard work being #1 country in the world
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:52 PM   #99
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What I hate about all the anti-gay conservatives is their blatant hypocrisy when it comes to "small government". They bitch incessantly about "big government invading people's lives", but when it comes to using government to force their religious views down the throats of others, they're all for it.

For a party who constantly throws the "Founding Fathers" around like crazy, you think they would have at least heard of the term "separation of church and state".
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Lol, reminds me and when my class had to do something similar regarding the death sentence and it was me, another guy, and the professor against like 20 others.


How'd that go?
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