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i don't know why you jumped on hess when i already name-drop'd lane lol

you could easily say lane had an otherworldly level of technical and musical prowess, and there's no contesting that, but i'm not gonna spend an hour writing an essay about how hess isn't the best thing under the sun

i haven't paid $35 a week or whatever it is to know hess's method, but if he suggests to use speed-block method practice without having spent several months or years working at individual techniques over time and constantly berating technical aspects of your playing, he's dumber than i thought. you even conceded that you shouldn't rush if you don't have a solid fundamental understanding, but at that level, you shouldn't be asking on a tablature music theory forum unless you're just a crappy player looking for a shortcut.

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chronowarp

im not even really advocating slop it then fix it. I'm saying a time will come if you only practice speed through linear increases of BPM on a metronome, then you're going to hit a brick wall hard.

you can lessen that struggle by constantly engaging yourself at higher speeds so your body learns how to react to the subtle adjustments you need to make mentally & physically to accommodate pulling it off.

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chronowarp

i didnt "concede" that...i included that in my original post, bro.

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i miss liam

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chronowarp

when did everyone here become so confrontational and overly concerned about being right, rather than just dispensing reasonable advice to people? ffs.

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Hey.

If you want to see a pretty awesome guide on how to play fast with precision then click the guide in my sig.

I came across it a long time ago and it has helped me out TONS in my own playing. I think it will help you out as well so I think you should definitely give it a try.

There are some exercises on it that are great for practicing. There are also tons of videos on youtube by a guy (I forget his name though since its been a while) who teaches exercises and techniques on playing faster.

Good luck!

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dumbface12

Going back to what the TS was asking speed is a byproduct of playing cleanly. You can try this method: play what you're trying to play slow and not to a metronome (concentrate on playing each note cleanly and getting the muscle memory), then after a week or so try playing to a metronome slowly, then as you get better speed up the metronome. Unfortunatly this does take awhile but effective for me at least.

As for Tom Hess

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start with slow easy songs you'll enjoy. play more by ear. if its hard you need the practice.

If you get bored and you force yourself to do mindless practicing. That kinda stuff doesnt help you improve. you must stay focused even if its just for 15 to 20 min thats better then a hour of mindless non sense.

Its ok to push yourself see what you can do. Id practice slow a whole day and try it the next day give your mind rest.

you must train your muscles to remember these movements. this is called muscle memory, this is why you practice slow.

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Slashiepie

Ok here is the real secret to playing fast: Play modes, lots of them, insanely fast phrygian runs, light speed mixolydian songs, dorian legato. Set the metronome to 260 and play as fast as you can! tense up if you need it, ignore saying in time its overrated and it has no soul, sacrifice acuraccy and cleanliness for the time being Or you will risk playing forom your soul like Jimmy, mistakes happen! repeat them until they dissapear!

i suggest you also get the super duper hardcore extra effective practice planer and tracker from Tom Hess, its only 99,99 bucks a month ( reduced to 69,99 this month and reduced to 19,99 just today because youre the 100.000.000 subscriber) it will improve your playing insanely! excel sheets not included. There is tons of testimonials from ex meth addicts and brutal sweepers.

While we are at it **** music theory, learn scales all, the more the better, but dont learn notes, they are a waste of time, music is all,about shapes.

**** coffe, theres nothing like the smell of trolling in the morning.

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91RG350

mmm...not so sure about that...if someone had the time and patience to play cleanly...and was able to play cleanly as fast as a metronome could possibly go...they'd be playing pretty freakin fast....

Because fast is what its all about, right?

Maybe if we got Lane and Hess to measure each others fastness then this whole question could be solved

On a side note...Ive been thinking of launching a weather baloon with a camera and putting it on YouTube. I might attach a metronome instead of a Lego minifig..... hmmmm..... it'd go faster as gravity got less, no? Assuming its an old school mechanical metronome.....

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Anon17

I'd like to point out to the TS that the vast, vast majority of people on this forum who've learnt good (and as a byproduct fast) technique have used the "start slow, play relaxed and economically and slowly speed up" method. Doing a bit of playing above the speed you can is okay sometimes to remove mental blocks, but doing it all the time seems like a backwards approach because at that speed you can't improve your muscle memory so you can't improve your technique. All you can do is get your brain used to the speed - This is important, yes, but you still need the technique (which you need to practice slowly) to back it up else you'll be playing absolute shite at 200bpm or whatever.

metalmetalhead

there were fast pickers, sweepers, and legato before hess or lane. I dont know much about either of them except whatever freebie videos are on youtube.

Something hess said that Ill always remember is. most guitar players myself included focus on one thing. weather it be a fast chromatic riff or a sweep. And you practice this one technique because its the riff you want to learn.. you practice and practice only to find hardly any improvements.

one of mine was the solo in bat country the chromatic trills at the end back and fourth. I just practiced picking chromatics. Its not an incorrect approach but I tell ya I made very little improvements picking chromatics. (not where I wanted the improvements to be anyway). my finger independence improved the most.

bottom line is all the techniques go hand in hand and just focusing on perfecting 1 thing at a time is not a good idea.

or you could do like john patrucie from dream theater and have and filing cabinet with all your practice date stored. equally practicing everything thats a real routine.

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jsantos

I remember starting with alternate picking my scales and modes 16th notes on 65bpms. It was painful as hell but it forced me to listen and clean up my right hand technique. It took me about 2 years of incrementing speed up to 160bpms. That's about where I can play comfortably and clean on 16th notes (alternate picking). You can say that 160bpms is my threshold or barrier. I can do up to like 200bpms but in short sprints lol. But yeah, I understand what you say about pushing the boundaries once in a while.

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chronowarp

I think anyone making an authoritative claim about technique should post an accompanying video of them playing.

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jsantos

Wow, was this directed to me?

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