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Old 09-26-2012, 05:11 PM   #1
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Question Need some help with Technical/Progressive Metalcore song

Would need some advice on this song i began to write yesterday. I like the first and the second riff but im not 100% sure if the riffs at 26-42 are good enough. Would be nice with some opinions and if someone wants to collab i would be happy to help u out with ur stuff.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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This is pretty average metalcore with some quirky little fills. I dig the riffs you mentioned tbh, but the breakdown is dreadful, remove it. I can work a bit on the drums if you want to too.

EDIT: You're Swedish and you don't write awesome Death Metal? Shame on you

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Old 09-26-2012, 06:25 PM   #3
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It doesn't start with much energy, and it sort of drags on. Needs some pacing, and perhaps try switching up the scales used.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:11 AM   #4
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Sounds like lowest string fap to me and random fills. Like bar 24 wtf? And the short breakdown is not good.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:23 AM   #5
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This is pretty average metalcore with some quirky little fills. I dig the riffs you mentioned tbh, but the breakdown is dreadful, remove it. I can work a bit on the drums if you want to too.

EDIT: You're Swedish and you don't write awesome Death Metal? Shame on you


Would be really nice if help me out with the drums, i made them in a hurry.

Im actually pretty influenced by swedish melodic death metal, i don't think metalcore would have sounded the same without bands like At The Gates and In Flames etc. The older metalcore bands was really influenced by The Gothenburg sound i believe.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:24 AM   #6
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Sounds like lowest string fap to me and random fills. Like bar 24 wtf? And the short breakdown is not good.


U mean the pinch harmonic sounds weird? I kinda like it actually, sounds a lot better if u actually play it.
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:03 AM   #7
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I've updated the song and added some new riffs and highered the bpm a bit. What do u guys think? No breakdown hatin' plz
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:41 AM   #8
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No breakdown hatin' plz

I can't resist the urge


It's the worse part of the song by far, and I don't even dig the slide riff. It just seems you run out of ideas so you added something so kiddies could flail their arms around.
This song already has a pseudo djent flavour to it, so if I were you I'd take it in that direction and remove the breakdown completely.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:19 AM   #9
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I can't resist the urge


It's the worse part of the song by far, and I don't even dig the slide riff. It just seems you run out of ideas so you added something so kiddies could flail their arms around.
This song already has a pseudo djent flavour to it, so if I were you I'd take it in that direction and remove the breakdown completely.


I knew u couldn't resist :P

I know the slide riff sounds a bit forced but i will see how it sounds recorded, cus that's all that matters. I've listened so much on I The Breather the last months so i couldn't resist to write that breakdown
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:38 AM   #10
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I knew u couldn't resist :P

I know the slide riff sounds a bit forced but i will see how it sounds recorded, cus that's all that matters. I've listened so much on I The Breather the last months so i couldn't resist to write that breakdown

If you want the breakdown that bad you could always try some polymetric/polyrhythmic stuff with it. It'd make it a bit more interesting
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:17 AM   #11
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I'm a bit confused with the Polyrhythmic thingy. I know u often play it in 3/4 but over a 4/4 time signature. You are not intrested in maybe write a polyrhythmic breakdown in GP or at least give an example of one?
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
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I'm a bit confused with the Polyrhythmic thingy. I know u often play it in 3/4 but over a 4/4 time signature. You are not intrested in maybe write a polyrhythmic breakdown in GP or at least give an example of one?

A few weeks ago I didn't know either, so frankibo made me a GP file explaining it.
Here you go

EDIT: But if I were you I wouldn't make one as straightfoward as the 3/4 over 4/4 polyrhythmin: probably something harder to follow like 11/8 over 4/4

EDIT2: I posted an example of what I was talking about.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:48 AM   #13
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THanks, that cleared some questions out. I changed the drums so it plays 12/15 i believe, what do u think? Sorry for being so bad at this
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:43 PM   #14
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A few weeks ago I didn't know either, so frankibo made me a GP file explaining it.
Here you go

EDIT: But if I were you I wouldn't make one as straightfoward as the 3/4 over 4/4 polyrhythmin: probably something harder to follow like 11/8 over 4/4

EDIT2: I posted an example of what I was talking about.



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Old 09-28-2012, 01:52 PM   #15
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That ending is amazing.


Shit, i think I got tinnitus from that ^^ Thanks for the example though
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:23 PM   #16
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The re use of my lesson brought a tear to my eye...

Lol Ometh have you only just discovered the tremolo bar button? You are raping it at the moment.

Omeths riff was sick.

tottsk1 what you've written is polymetrics not polyrhythmics.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:43 PM   #17
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Lol Ometh have you only just discovered the tremolo bar button? You are raping it at the moment.

I always knew it but I never had a chance to use it in GP because I don't have a guitar with a Floyd irl. I only have one whammy bar and when I jerk it around a sticky liquid comes out after a bit
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