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Old 09-30-2012, 05:01 AM   #1
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Suggestions wanted for mid-range metal axe

Hi dudes,

I'm in the market for an axe that I can use for messing around/practicing in standard tuning (as I keep my other guitars in crazy other tunings ). I've been trawling guitar websites looking at different models but I can't find anything to settle on. Looking for suggestions to broaden my horizons so to speak.

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Location: Melbourne, Australia !!
Budget: ~$1000AU can go higher if anything takes my fancy
Sound: Prog/Metal but not important right now. Prefer passive pups but can deal with actives.

Preferences (The important bit)
- 24 frets
- Fixed bridge
- Non-strat/superstrat shape (got tonnes of those already)
- Ebony fretboard

I like Japanese guitar brands generally (Caparison, Ibanez, ESP). I like the necks on them (mostly).

Currently on my list of potential axes is the EC-1000 or H-1001 but wanting suggestions to see if there's anything more interesting out there!

Cheers!
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:28 AM   #2
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I know for a fact Carvin makes what you want...but since you live in Australia, the import costs would probabaly put them over your budget.

http://www.carvinguitars.com/custom...etcarvedtop.php
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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the EC-1000 is definitely a very solid guitar (or, save yourself some money and get an ec-401: they're pretty similar in every way but price). both can be had with SD pickups instead of EMG's

I would also check out some of the PRS SE's. the Fredrik Akesson model played really nicely and sounded pretty good.

schecters may also be worth a look
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:52 AM   #4
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:31 PM   #5
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yeah was gonna say a neck through carvin but not sure what that would really cost you to get it there.

i would say a modest build (no crazy woods etc) which would perhaps put in the 800ish range and leaves enough for aftermarket pickups.
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:53 PM   #6
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If the EC-1000 looks appealing to you, definitely go for it.
I've had one for a while now and, though I am selling it (to fund a 7 string ), I would say it get's the most playtime out of the guitars I have.
I don't know how the used market is out there but in the states, were flooded with them. That might attest to their popularity.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:39 PM   #7
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Since you like Ibanez, you could look at the ARZ series. LP style body, 24 frets, but most of them have EMGs and they all have rosewood fretboards I think. Then there's the new Schecter Blackjack SLS series, the ones with the thinner necks. They come in various shapes, LP and Tele included, and have ebony fretboards, fixed bridges, 24 frets and you can get them with either a Seymour Duncan Full Shred - Jazz PU combo, or active Blackouts. The price is just a bit higher than the EC-1000
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:12 PM   #8
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Thanks guys.

Carvin is pretty much out of the question unless I was to enlist someone in the US to order it for me and then ship it out to me cause they cost like twice as much over here. Looking on the website now, the 24 fret California Single Carved Top model goes for $2200 - $2800 for the ones listed on the site. That and I don't really want a custom/semi-custom if I can avoid it as I'm impatient.

Still looking at the EC-1000, and also the EC-401FM now cause they're pretty. Going to have to relax the ebony fretboard requirement I think. Still kind of want something else though, I dunno. I already have an LP shaped guitar, as much as it is a cr*ppy made in china thing.

I've played the Ibanez ARZ a few times and they look awesome but I've never been impressed with the neck. Dunno what it is but it just doesn't work for me. Not really a Schecter fan either - they look cool but I've played a bunch of them at shops over the years and never found one I really liked.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:04 AM   #9
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Looking on the website now, the 24 fret California Single Carved Top model goes for $2200 - $2800 for the ones listed on the site. That and I don't really want a custom/semi-custom if I can avoid it as I'm impatient


Honestly, it doesn't take them that long to make, and they actually start at around $1000...but yeah, highly inconvenient to have to arrange for someone to get it for you and then ship it.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:16 AM   #10
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Honestly, it doesn't take them that long to make, and they actually start at around $1000...but yeah, highly inconvenient to have to arrange for someone to get it for you and then ship it.


carvin's prices aren't nearly so kind if you don't live in the us. once you've accounted for basic price differences, exchange rates, shipping and taxes, carvins really aren't a good option outside the US (they're even expensive to Canada)
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:42 AM   #11
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I understand that- I said as much in my initial post. I was just pointing out that while the ones listed for immediate sale all have a variety of extras on them boosting their prices over $2000, this is misleading since the base price for that model was actually $1000.*








* EDIT: Nevermind- just looked at prices on Carvin's Australian site. Things have changed since the last time I helped someone navigate their site for an international order.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:50 AM   #12
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Prices are intense over here. But I will continue to look at Carvin as a back up if I can't find anything else that takes my fancy.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:51 AM   #13
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I've been trying to find a price on these, but you may just have to contact them directly:

http://www.jjguitars.com/jj_wildman..._24_guitar.html

Edit: just found this one for just at €600
http://www.richardsguitars.co.uk/ac...ilt_Guitar.html
It's not the same model, but it should give you an idea of how prices run.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:08 AM   #14
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Hey man The Ec-1000VB is a great axe.Its got everything you want and will fit your needs.Plus it looks Bad-ass
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
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Cheers Danny but I reckon if I go for an LP shape it'll be one of the LTDs (1000, 401, etc)

Definitely appreciate the suggestions though!
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:38 AM   #16
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Ltd Ec-1000. Its the only guitar that you can afford with such specs.
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Cheers Danny but I reckon if I go for an LP shape it'll be one of the LTDs (1000, 401, etc)

Definitely appreciate the suggestions though!

Y'know, looking for a non-Strat, non-SuperStrat with those characteristics is tough enough...NOW you tell us the LTDs have locked up the LP category? GRRRRR!


It's all good!

I have to say, though, that I'm surprised at how many "metal"/"shredder" hardtails I know of only have 22 frets.
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I drive myself crazy with what I want in a guitar!

I think I'm going to have to relax the requirements a bit. Main parts are 24 frets and fixed bridge. Really just looking for something different! Subjective as anything I know but I'm just kind of bored with the standard look/finishes/etc. Am kind of tempted with that half blue/half green finish that Carvin do ... HMMMM
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You're not going to be different with an EC-1000. Its pretty much the most popular LTD on this forum.

If you want something different, get something like a Kramer.
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Talk it out...think it though. Figure out what it is that you really want and what is driving you away from what has become your own personal norms.

Most of my guitars are hardtails- only one tremolo in 6 (soon to be 7) electric guitars- and of those, the 4 with with 24 frets are all from 1 luthier near Chicago. I found HIS stuff while wandering through the Dallas Guitar Show. It was just that different.

My 7th? It's being done by a luthier out of Rochester, NY. I have no idea how many frets it has. That design detail doesn't matter to me...at least, not as much as the wood, the pickups, the controls and all that jazz.*

So ask yourself what is it that is really itching in your psyche?











* and my GAS list is all over the place: hardtails & tremolos; 22, 24, and even fretless; acoustics, solid bodies, semihollows & hollows; HBs, P90s, and single-coils...in all kinds of combinations...
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