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Old 06-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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Small wattage metal tube amp?

I know the 6505 112 is recommended a buttload, but are there any smaller (say 20 watt-ish?) tube amps good for metal? I've heard the Blackstar HT-5, but a lot of people complain about its solid state rectification, and I'm just exploring options.

P.S. Complaining about solid state rectification is kind of stupid, knowing some of the worlds greatest amps are solid state rectified (Twin Reverb, JMPs, JCM800) That's like complaining about a bolt-on neck, even though little known guitars called the Stratocaster and the Telecaster are bolt on.

Don't know where that came from, but anyways, metal amps?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #2
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the blackstar doesn't just have ss rectification it has a ton of ss in the signal path.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:29 PM   #3
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Peavey xxx 112 combo. 40 watts love mine

I think Krank has some 20 watt heads but never played one
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:32 PM   #4
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the blackstar doesn't just have ss rectification it has a ton of ss in the signal path.

So it's more hybrid than anything?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:34 PM   #5
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:35 PM   #6
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:45 PM   #7
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Also maybe the new Jim root orange
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:50 PM   #8
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i asked the same exact question 2? weeks ago

everyone said peavey 6505 112

i ended up getting a 6505
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:53 PM   #9
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How heavy are we talking, and what budget?

A Baron Snott Watt can get you up to some real chugga chugga stuff, and so will the junior Krank amps. A Diamond Assassin will give you slightly less gain but can still get you into heavy metal/thrash metal. Mesa Mini-Rec has the gain but is pricey and a little fizzy. A Brown Eye modded Jet City JCA20 will give you super-saturated 80s grit. Orange Dark Terror has the gain for metal but lacks clarity.

Suhr Badger and Fargen Miniplex could get you into JCM 800 territory and sound great with Dist/OD/Boost pedals. Jet City JCA22 can take you up to a slightly-boosted JCM800 type level.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #10
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:02 PM   #11
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SS rectifier doesn't matter much. The rectifier isn't directly in the signal path, and also most tight metal tube amps have SS rectifiers. What people complain about is that the HT-5 has a TON of solid state components - diodes, transistors, etc., not to mention a solid-state phase inverter, which is the real clincher that disqualifies it from being a full-tube amp.

I'd recommend the Jet City Amps JCA22 or Baron Snott Watt or the Mesa Mini Rectifier, if your budget goes that high.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:09 PM   #12
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JMP's and JCM 800s are solid state rectified?? I knew the JCM900 was, but I thought that was why everyone hated them so much.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:28 PM   #13
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People hate the 900s that have the clipping diodes I believe
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:30 PM   #14
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People hate the 900s that have the clipping diodes I believe


Ah, that my be it. my mistake
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:13 AM   #15
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Oh yeeeeeeeeeah and the Dark Terror. Doh.

And no budget exactly yet; under 500 would be preferred. So no Mini Rec.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:48 AM   #16
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the blackstar doesn't just have ss rectification it has a ton of ss in the signal path.


+1, i couldn't give a shit about SS rectification (4 out of my 5 amps are SS rectified), if anything, you want SS rectification for heavier stuff.

it's all the other SS guff in it which we complain about

regarding the original question, i'd just be worried that the "lower wattage" metal tube amps might not be all that much quieter and might not sound as good. not saying they definitely won't, but it's worth bearing in mind. if you can get the 6505 down to a volume which is suitable and which still sounds good, then just go with the 6505, kind of thing (assuming it does the tone you want, which it probably does).
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:54 AM   #17
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You might like the Diamond Assassin?
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:53 PM   #18
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The baron snott watt (haven't played, but clips sound frickin' sweet, little pricey for your budget)
Krank rev jr./rev jr. + (own the standard version, awesome, heavy ass amp, but it is still pretty loud, look used on ebay, heads usually go for 400, probably can find one with its cab for 500)
Orange dark terror (haven't played the dark terror, but I have played the tiny, assuming they are similar it is a pretty sweet amp, very woolly, tone controls are somewhat limited)

Or you could just buy the peavey and use the volume knob. I think that covers whats in your budget.
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:16 PM   #19
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I have a Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier ... switches between 10 and 25 watts. I also have a Orange TH30 which goes 7/15/30 watt.

I heart them both. I'm not sure which one I like more.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:27 PM   #20
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So which one do u like better the TH30 or the mini rectifier?
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