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Old 10-01-2012, 12:13 AM   #61
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:15 AM   #62
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Nothing wrong with odd time signatures. Sure, they can be used as a gimmick, but if a riff calls for something that isn't 3/4 or 4/4, why discard it? When I come up with riffs in odd time signatures, I don't sit down and think "right, I'mma come up with this riff which switches between 5/4 and 13/8 every 3 bars, it's gonna sound sick", I just play a riff and sometimes it ends up not being a "standard" time signature.

And to contribute to the thread- forced "American" accents in -core bands and the occasional indie band.

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Yeah, God forbid someone try and bring some variety into indie rock
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:16 AM   #63
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I think the half talking/half singing thing that artists like Kesha do is annoying. Its really not even attractive. Also when a person's accent is too prominent in their singing, like the band Los Campesinos. Really cool music, but the vocals...

I really wouldnt consider time signatures a 'gimmick' though. They are a fundamental part of music. There are bands that probably overuse the switching between them, but its usually pretty cool if its done well.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:17 AM   #64
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:18 AM   #65
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Nah, Dillinger's better.

That bassist is going to ****ing kill someone, though. That's pretty rad.

And that was just a small show in a record store where I'm assuming they were trying to be pretty careful. I saw them at a festival inside an old high school where they played in what I assume used to be the cafeteria. They were going insane there. One of the guitar players climbed onto a stack of speakers and the bass player threw his bass out into the crowd. I think he then crowd surfed to the guy who caught it and then continued playing as he was carried back to the stage, I'm not 100% sure though because the show was so crazy that I'm having trouble remembering specific details.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:21 AM   #66
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BANJO IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE CRESCENDO INSTRUMENT; here's an electric guitar plugged into a Marshall, try that instead, FFS.


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Old 10-01-2012, 12:24 AM   #67
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:27 AM   #68
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It was just bad. Plain ol' bad. Guitars swinging around, jumping off amps and posing mid-air. If they spent half the time focusing on their instruments rather than trying to look hardcore, they might not sound so bad.

It just oozed 'gimmick'.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:28 AM   #69
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It was just bad. Plain ol' bad. Guitars swinging around, jumping off amps and posing mid-air. If they spent half the time focusing on their instruments rather than trying to look hardcore, they might not sound so bad.

It just oozed 'gimmick'.

Gimmicks aren't inherently bad. Also doing what they do is only gimmicky if your frame of reference is lamestream radio rock bands, it's actually pretty common.
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I think all the Warped Tour type bands are pretty gimmicky. There are a few who've played Warped Tour who have some originality, but mostly they all sound the same. Well, they could be put into two categories, pop rock bands (that sound like Relient K) and metal bands who are trying way to hard. I get a "People like this so we have to play like this so people will like us," impression from almost all of them.

And odd time signatures are only bad if they sound bad. Really you shouldn't be able to tell without thinking about it. Though 4/4 is reeeeeeaaaaaaaallllly overused in modern music. Its nice to change it up every now and again.

Oh, and I hate how with some screamo type bands, the whole song is really just one open D or C chord with some random notes over it every once in a while. One chord is not a chord progression.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:33 AM   #71
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Gimmicks aren't inherently bad. Also doing what they do is only gimmicky if your frame of reference is lamestream radio rock bands, it's actually pretty common.


I've been to many live shows and festivals, I've just never seen a band carry on that way. I get the appeal, don't get me wrong, it just doesn't appeal to me. Its like they don't give a fuck about the music and just wanna jump around and be idiots. Cool, but not what I came to hear/see. Not my scene.

But I must listen to lamestream bands because I don't get it, right?
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:34 AM   #72
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It was just bad. Plain ol' bad. Guitars swinging around, jumping off amps and posing mid-air. If they spent half the time focusing on their instruments rather than trying to look hardcore, they might not sound so bad.

It just oozed 'gimmick'.


...you realize they're playing pretty complex shit WHILE swinging guitars around, jumping off amps and generally going insane, right?

The only let down of any Dillinger show is Greg's vocals aren't really great live.
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Oh, and I hate how with some screamo type bands, the whole song is really just one open D or C chord with some random notes over it every once in a while. One chord is not a chord progression.

I once opened for a band which had a song with 2 riffs. The intro/verse riff was chugging the same chord over and over. The chorus riff was chugging a chord one fret up, over and over. Oh, and they had a breakdown...chugging the root over and over. Not even kidding.

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I've been to many live shows and festivals, I've just never seen a band carry on that way. I get the appeal, don't get me wrong, it just doesn't appeal to me. Its like they don't give a fuck about the music and just wanna jump around and be idiots. Cool, but not what I came to hear/see. Not my scene.

But I must listen to lamestream bands because I don't get it, right?

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Old 10-01-2012, 12:37 AM   #75
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I once opened for a band which had a song with 2 riffs. The intro/verse riff was chugging the same chord over and over. The chorus riff was chugging a chord one fret up, over and over. Oh, and they had a breakdown...chugging the root over and over. Not even kidding.

inb4 "dude, you opened for slipknot?"


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Actually, got another one. When I went to see Tool on their 10,000 Days tour, although it was an awesome show it was kind of obnoxious how Maynard faced away from the crowd towards a blank wall the whole time. I can understand if it's for nerves or something, but I don't know if it's for that reason or if it's a gimmick thing.
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...you realize they're playing pretty complex shit WHILE swinging guitars around, jumping off amps and generally going insane, right?

The only let down of any Dillinger show is Greg's vocals aren't really great live.


I'll give you that, plus the fact they were an opener so the mix was terrible. But I don't share your enthusiasm for their stage presence. Give me a shy Layne Staley hiding behind his shades anyday.

To me, it just seemed a hardcore gimmick. But, it may just be because I don't 'get' hardcore.
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I'll give you that, plus the fact they were an opener so the mix was terrible. But I don't share your enthusiasm for their stage presence. Give me a shy Layne Staley hiding behind his shades anyday.

To me, it just seemed a hardcore gimmick. But, it may just be because I don't 'get' hardcore.


Their mix is always terrible because they never get a sound guy who knows what's about to happen.
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...you realize they're playing pretty complex shit WHILE swinging guitars around, jumping off amps and generally going insane, right?

Either they make a lot of mistakes, or they're tone deaf 'playing with passion'.
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