strat0blaster

I call bullshit on this, the stupidest statement of the thread.

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WaterGod

And California just made Gay conversion therapy illegal!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/01/us/ca...-ban/index.html

WaterGod

Nope mostly just the south

palm mute

1. Because it is Obama and their party has done absolutely nothing but the opposite of whatever he does for going on 4 years now.
2. Because Christianity, more specifically Catholicism, is a big thing here.
3. Because they can get away with it given the current political climate.

And that is horrible, they should just simply stop voting stupid people into offices.

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VanTheKraut

Arizona is ****ed up. But my State is voting on whether or not Obama will even be on the ballot. Thats right, whether or not THE CURRENT PRESIDENT will be on the ballot for THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, Basically the logic is that Obama's dad is a Kenyan citizen, Kenya claims all children of Kenyan citizens as Kenyan citizens, so Obama is a Kenyan citizen and can't be a US citizen without first renouncing Kenyan citizenship. Its bullshit lawyer jargon, Good ole Kansas.

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Most_Triumphant

Because it causes the employer to pay for it's employees birth control. In my experience Sex and work don't mix well.


Unless you're a porn star, in which case your job is to have sex.

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palm mute

You know when I read your location I never noticed you were on the Kansas side of KC before.

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CodeMonk

I wonder if Arizona will ban Viagra because it might be used for something other than procreation?

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WaterGod

Nope, Viagra is actually something the catholic church approves of.

In Vein

I am going to start off by saying that any business that fires someone for this reason is idiotic, and that in reality this law will hardly actually be used, because outside of political rhetoric and the most fundamental of fundamentalists, almost no one actually cares that much about who uses birth control.

That said, I think that businesses should have the right to fire employees for this reason, or, for that matter, any other stupid, bigoted reason.

When you employ someone, what are you really doing? You are trading your money for their labor. If, for whatever reason, you don't want to make this trade, you should not be forced to as doing otherwise would violate your freedom and property rights. So, if you don't want to hire someone because of their race, sexual orientation, or preference for the Patriots, then a government really should not override and invalidate your property rights by forcing you to do so.

Two things to take note of. First, this right really only applies to individual's hiring choices, and certainly not a government's. Corporations are sort of a grey area since in some ways they act and are treated as individuals, but their "property" is diffusely spread among many people. However, large businesses discriminating in such a manner probably isn't much of a problem as a result of the next point.

In today's economy in which markets are so much more global and encompassing than ever before, any business that discriminated on any real scale would quickly be driven out of business by competition. By refusing to hire perfectly capable candidates, they are shrinking their own labor pool, which should drive prices up, while passing up qualified employees that their competition can employ. Thus, they would face higher costs and likely a smaller market, meaning they wouldn't stand a chance. So, such discrimination wouldn't persist in the long run anyway.

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jakesmellspoo

wat.

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TheEternalJew

Didn't read but why would a woman feel the need to tell the boss she is on the pill?

jakesmellspoo

maybe if you do that thing you didn't do, your question would be answered?

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SteveHouse

because you can't read big words

as in, big font

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eGraham

**** you. **** you and whatever tea you drink

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c3powil

It's stupid from the moral standpoint, but when you consider the fact that the employer will have to pay for the employee's birth control, I can see their point. Still, I think it's stupid... unless birth control costs an ungodly amount.

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SteveHouse

Mind pointing it out for the rest of us?

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TheEternalJew

So I just did, now the question remains of: why do people even live in Arizona?

SteveHouse

I just posted this exact thing on Facebook

lawl

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