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Old 10-04-2012, 02:12 AM   #21
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I've really got my eye set on the SG and I honestly really do need a new guitar, it would do me much more good than a new amp right now and I couldn't afford a JCA100h + a new guitar right now. But, if I could pick up a JCA20h for $300 I'd definitely consider it since it retails usually for $500-$700.

Would the JCA20h offer me siginificantly different tones to my Bugera and maybe cover some tones I've listed above better?
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:18 AM   #22
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Yeah a little but it's not the one I'd go for. Upgrading the tubes in your 333 will probably do just as much good. The JCA will hang together better if you are carting around to gigs though. I wouldn't want to be dragging a Bugera around Melbourne pubs.

This is the one you want:
http://www.allansbillyhyde.com.au/p..._Tube_Head.aspx

Go in and beat them down on the price. If you get your SG off them at the same time you should be able to do even better. Exploit them, man. When a filthy monopolist like Allans goes to the wall it's time to strike.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:24 AM   #23
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Well as I said I can't afford that at the moment since I really need a new guitar and I don't have enough money for both.

So the JCA20h isn't really worth the $300 for me? The only reason I would buy it is for tonal differences, not really to have another amp if you get what I mean. It would be plugged into my 333xl combo anyway for the time being.

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:32 AM   #24
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At $300, once the go broke you could flip it for profit I guess. In a month's time it will be worth more than you paid for it.
Beg, borrow or steal an extra $300 and get that 50H. Sell the 333 to pay back the extra that you borrowed. $600 for a new 50W tube amp in Australia isn't going to happen every day. Especially not something that good. It's basically a budget Soldano.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:44 AM   #25
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What's the RRP on the 50h usually and how does it compare to say a Vintage Modern or a JVM?
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:47 AM   #26
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Not sure, but a lot more than that. Imo it will kick a JVM's arse. The Vintage Modern it would be a toss up depending on taste. Like I said, it's a little Soldano. Load it up with JJ's and run it into a good cab and it would be hard to beat for twice the price.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:07 AM   #27
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Ok, if you were me with my gear (check 1st page) would you get the SG faded for ~$950 or the 50h for around $600 or whatever I can screw them down to? My parents said they'll put in about $700-800 for what I want (with the idea of a guitar) and I can put in the rest since it's going to be an early christmas & late bday present. I could probably put in more but I like going out too and don't really have a big or moderate income (for someone my age) since I'm a full time uni student.

My guitars are pretty much far below average and I'd probably run the JCA50h/20h through my Bugera combo for now. From the way it sounded, the Gibson imo would probably have a bigger difference on my tone and it's something nicer to play as well.

Also, my parents aren't guitarists and they will probably be strongly opposed to me getting a new amp because they'll just say 'you already have one, you can't play two at once and you don't need it'. :P Unless I were to sell my Bugera but I don't think I want to do that.

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:09 AM   #28
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What about this?

http://www.allansbillyhyde.com.au/p..._Combo_Amp.aspx

I'm guessing it's not the true JCA50h combo version because it's a combo and it's cheaper than the head alone...
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:10 AM   #29
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Bought the JCA2112rc for $650 only a couple of months ago. If only I knew this was going to happen. I would have grabbed the 50w then.
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That would be a fine choice.
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What would?
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:14 AM   #32
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:25 AM   #33
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What about SG or 50h?
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:55 AM   #34
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If I could afford it I'd go for the head so it's easier if you ever want to buy a good speaker cab but they seem to be discounting the combo more and it's a fine amp, basically a Soldano Lucky 13. I'd rock down to their shop and see what they can do on a package deal.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #35
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If I could afford it I'd go for the head so it's easier if you ever want to buy a good speaker cab but they seem to be discounting the combo more and it's a fine amp, basically a Soldano Lucky 13. I'd rock down to their shop and see what they can do on a package deal.

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:58 AM   #36
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If I could afford it I'd go for the head so it's easier if you ever want to buy a good speaker cab but they seem to be discounting the combo more and it's a fine amp, basically a Soldano Lucky 13. I'd rock down to their shop and see what they can do on a package deal.


What's a Lucky 13? I'm guessing the 50/100 models are based more off a SLO?
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:02 AM   #37
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Oh, and btw, at some stage you'll probably want to upgrade the speakers in the JCA combo. That's something that can wait though. The stock ones aren't the best but they are perfectly functional. That's a bridge you can cross another day.



http://www.soldano.com/products/com...ucky-13-50-212/
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:07 AM   #38
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If I do get one it'll probably be a head, either the JCA20h or 50h. I'll have to try them out but if they give me that kind of warm lead tone that my Bugera is seriously lacking then I'll consider them.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:14 AM   #39
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Listen to Cathbard

Don't get the JCA20H

It is too vintage voiced imo.

Do whatever you have to do to get the 50H and forget the JVM. If you go end up getting a JVM get the 210 instead.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:23 AM   #40
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Is the 50 better than a JVM?

I really like the tone in the beginning of this:



But does it not get have much modern than that? Because that's really vintage.
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