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Bleh, space. So bland. What could possibly be less interesting? I kid. I'm with you.
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10-23-2012, 01:25 PM
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Oh, I misunderstood what you were saying then. My b. The planet might recover and new life forms would develop but I'd still rather avoid wiping ourselves out along with most other species here with us.
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10-23-2012, 01:26 PM
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Donald Trump is saying that at noon tomorrow he's going to reveal a major Obama bombshell
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidwi...at-could-it-be/ So do you think he finally found Obama's 'real' birth certificate? |
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10-23-2012, 01:27 PM
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I'd have to laugh.
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10-23-2012, 01:28 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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You have no idea how much I hope he has a birth certificate to show off. EDIT: Obviously it's not gonna be anything substantial or damaging because he would've gone straight to the top with it. It's a shit publicity stunt which is gonna make him look silly. Is there a new series of the Apprentice starting soon or something? Last edited by willT08 : 10-23-2012 at 01:29 PM. |
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10-23-2012, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Probably will just be "haha obama fag lolololz"
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10-23-2012, 01:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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It amazes me how appalled some of the Americans ITT were at Paddy's defense spending graph. What, did you think the "more than the next ten spenders combined" thing was a joke?
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10-23-2012, 01:38 PM
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what's good nyuggah?
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You're either disgusted or glad about those numbers here in the US it seems. They way they talk about it, it makes it sound as if it's necessary to compete when the reality is much different. That's probably why people are in awe here 
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10-23-2012, 01:40 PM
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"hey everybody we spend the GDP of several moderately sized nations on improving our methods of blowin niggaz up lemme get dat cred!"
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10-23-2012, 01:40 PM
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Finding the Pattern
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Nuclear (works today), Solar Power Satellites (Significant upfront costs but entirely possible with current technology), Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (Was done successfully in the '30's IIRC), Ocean Wave power generation (concept is proven, needs research dollars), Thin Film Solar etc etc... Fusion if we can contain it.
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10-23-2012, 01:44 PM
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Fusion has been 5-10 years away since 1970.
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10-23-2012, 01:44 PM
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UG's Jewish Seinfeld
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I'm with you 100%. Seems strange to me then that you seem to be preferring a candidate who at every turns seems to be against investment in green or renewable energy research. Seeing that you realize how big of a deal energy is, it must mean you're really putting the economy several tiers above everything else. Whether you're right about who would sort the economy out is unimportant to me, it's just interesting to see. EDIT: No it hasn't Steve. |
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10-23-2012, 01:46 PM
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...Was there any meaningful point to that then? Was it just, "It ain't da planet, it our speshiez"? I think most people who are for green energy understand that and they don't really mean the actual planet.
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10-23-2012, 01:48 PM
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ITER's project won't start producing anything until 2019 and they need about €15 billion to get the experiment up and running. This is just for a test reactor.
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10-23-2012, 01:49 PM
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Yes, at this point the economy trumps pretty much everything else, but even if it didn't it's not just about investing in alternative energy, it's about HOW to invest. Simply giving companies a shitpot of money and saying 'go forth and prosper' is NOT a good plan, as has been shown repeatedly recently. See the Ansari X Prize for one possible 'investment' model. Pay for results and ONLY results, but pay a LOT for said results. I'm betting that Romney is a better judge of investment than Obama...
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10-23-2012, 01:52 PM
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I'm sure he would be if he wasn't opposed to investing in renewable energy research in the first place. He made it very clear last night. His plan for energy independence is to exploit coal, gas and oil and then tagged renewables on at the end I think. I know I've seen him say that investing in renewable energy has been a waste of time before. |
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10-23-2012, 01:52 PM
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okay. then it's been "5-10 years away" as long as I've known it exists, which is most of my life. I'm not calling it a pipe dream. I'm saying we shouldn't be relying on it developing, and that I'll believe it when I see it.
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10-23-2012, 01:53 PM
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That's what I'm saying, nobody in the field of Physics has made this claim. Quote:
It's the only sure-fire way out of the energy crisis. Take it or leave it. |
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10-23-2012, 02:03 PM
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What other short term plan for energy independence would you have? While we can agree that's not ideal, it's the only one that will work in the near term, right? You may be right, and Romney may not accomplish anything useful in regard to alternative energy production. In which case he would have the same record that Obama currently has, minus the Corporate largesse...
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10-23-2012, 02:05 PM
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Finding the Pattern
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Actually no, fission will accomplish that, we just need different reactors. And Solar Power Satellites are possible today as well (technically if not politically). Fusion would be nice, but it isn't necessary.
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