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Old 10-04-2012, 08:55 PM   #41
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as should heroin
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:57 PM   #42
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But if you're not an athlete, what's the end goal if not looking ripped? What does all that effort go towards if it's not for the functionality?

You're not looking at it from the right angle. What's the end goal? Lifting more than you did before. Running faster than you did before. Simple personal gratification. No different than the people who drink alcohol for the buzz.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:59 PM   #43
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Picked no to legalise them.

After thought, should've picked yes.

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Old 10-04-2012, 09:05 PM   #44
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I'm not going to argue for or against legalizing them, but I'm just kind of curious, exactly what would you use them for? Even if they improve physical performance, they have some nasty documented side effects if taken regularly with no medical need, most centering on a very important portion of your body. What exactly would be the rationale to use them without a prescription?
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:08 PM   #45
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don't put poison in yr body bro


Don't tell people how to live bro.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:13 PM   #46
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I'm not going to argue for or against legalizing them, but I'm just kind of curious, exactly what would you use them for? Even if they improve physical performance, they have some nasty documented side effects if taken regularly, most centering on a very important portion of your body. What exactly would be the rationale to use them without a prescription?

Well, I've never taken them or tried to without a prescription. I don't even know where I would start if I tried. When athletes use them, it's because they want to win and be better than everyone else. Body builders, and professional wrestlers, want to be big.

I would use them to break the limit in the gym, to go passed what is physically possible without steroids. Take a deadlift from 650 lbs (not saying I can do that) to the extra plate or three.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:15 PM   #47
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I've had steroids prescribed to me twice I think. Both because of poison ivy.

I doubt those were the same things athletes use though.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:18 PM   #48
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You're not looking at it from the right angle. What's the end goal? Lifting more than you did before. Running faster than you did before. Simple personal gratification. No different than the people who drink alcohol for the buzz.

i think it's quite a bit different.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #49
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Steroids work by triggering hormone releases, particularly those prominent in the opposite sex's puberty era. Yeah sure, it allows you to build muscle very quickly. But at a huge cost. Steroids aren't illegal because they give athletes an advantage (otherwise they'd all do them and all would be fair). They're illegal because they have a lot of side effects.

These side effects include higher blood pressure (leading to increased risk of heart attack, particularly in later years), reduced sexual function (including temporal infertility) and even cause cardiac arrhythmia (where the heart skips beats/has irregular beating).

And these are just the medical factors, everyone's heard about "roid rages" but anabolic steroids can also cause depression and many other psychological issues.

And on a less serious note, it can cause growing pains in adults, who have already undergone their growth spurts as adolescents

Just wanted to clarify a little. There are several types of steroids, from those used in inhalers, anti-rash creams and similar items to anabolic steroids, which I assume are the type the OP was talking about.

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Old 10-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #50
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People seem to have a hard time understand that taking steroid doesn't suddenly lead to side effects any more then taking any over the counter prescription would.

Steroid abuse leads to serious side effects, as does abuse of just about any substance.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #51
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i think it's quite a bit different.


And that difference grants you the right to tell people what they can put in their bodies?
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:21 PM   #52
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And that difference grants you the right to tell people what they can put in their bodies?

where did i say that?

for putting words in my mouth.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:23 PM   #53
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where did i say that?

for putting words in my mouth.


I was merely acting preemptively before someone claimed that the difference meant that it shouldn't be allowed, which is what you appeared to be doing.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:23 PM   #54
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I see it the same way I see all other drugs. You're just screwing up yourself by taking it so go ahead. They should be legal.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:26 PM   #55
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People seem to have a hard time understand that taking steroid doesn't suddenly lead to side effects any more then taking any over the counter prescription would.

Steroid abuse leads to serious side effects, as does abuse of just about any substance.

Actually you're quite wrong; they have plenty of immediate side-effects (temporary, but immediate) that can occur from very early on, with so-called 'recommended dosages'.

Do you know what steroids do, or are you simply going on word-of-mouth?

Edit: I know you mention relativity to other prescription drugs, but the main difference is that these drugs are given with known side-effects, to treat something potentially more serious - not for the user's own wishes/beliefs, and people are also more inclined to follow the dosage on a bottle than dose up with whatever some guy selling illegal stuff tells them is safe.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:26 PM   #56
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People seem to have a hard time understand that taking steroid doesn't suddenly lead to side effects any more then taking any over the counter prescription would.

Steroid abuse leads to serious side effects, as does abuse of just about any substance.


But one off use of steroids would provide no benefits. Only regular use (or abuse) of them will help.
They also have an addictive property associated through body dismorphia, which would be the reason 90% of people would take steroids if they were legal.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:28 PM   #57
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I see it the same way I see all other drugs. You're just screwing up yourself by taking it so go ahead. They should be legal.


HIV positive people have used anabolic steroid to manage their conditions for years.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:29 PM   #58
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Actually you're quite wrong; they have plenty of immediate side-effects (temporary, but immediate) that can occur from very early on, with so-called 'recommended dosages'.

Do you know what steroids do, or are you simply going on word-of-mouth?


Hadn't seen the research on short term side effects. Links?
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:29 PM   #59
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It isn't screwing up anyone.


A tad disingenuous of you.
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A tad disingenuous of you.


Thus why I edited my post, because it was hyperbole.
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