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Old 10-04-2012, 10:05 AM   #1
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Appropriate string gauge

Hello UGers,

Id like to know whats the best string gauge to tune from E standard to C standard.

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Old 10-04-2012, 10:50 AM   #2
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On 25.5 scale guitar 011-052 gauge was good for me for C standard. They are pretty damn stiff on E standard though, if you intended on switching back and forth.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:15 AM   #3
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I like ernie ball 11-54 for c standard.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:59 AM   #4
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What kind of guitar is it? If its got a floyd then you'll need to do a lot of adjustment when you change tunings.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:41 PM   #5
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My guitar has a vintage tremolo, and I plan switching back and forth between E standard and C standard
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:47 PM   #6
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I'd block the trem. A vintage trem isn't as finicky as floyd, but changing the tuning that much will probably cause you issues.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:36 PM   #7
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You should maybe have two guitars.
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I'd tend to agree. No matter how you set the guitar up it'll only be perfect for one tuning or you'd have to split the difference and make it mediocre for both tunings. In the end only you can decide if thats acceptable to you.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #9
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I'd block the trem. A vintage trem isn't as finicky as floyd, but changing the tuning that much will probably cause you issues.

+1

While I had no choice in the matter, this turned out to be the best thing for my guitar.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:22 PM   #10
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I agree. AFAIK its not very healthy for the guitar either to constantly switch between tunings that are quite far apart.

Not to mention its much less hassle! One guitar for high tunings and one for low ones should be enough for long time.
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I agree. AFAIK its not very healthy for the guitar either to constantly switch between tunings that are quite far apart.


Totally not doubting you, but what are some of the concerns?
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:30 PM   #13
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-Fine tuners needs to be adjusted to be tuned properly.
-Neck releif has to be setted up and the truss rod ajusted to compensate the change of tension.
-Going two whole tone will make the string either too loose or to streched.
-The sping in the tremolo would need to be adjusted each time.

It might be doable to go a halftone, but anything more is not recommended.
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^ Yeah. And there really aren't strings that would be good for both tunings. 9-42 will be too light for C tuning and 11-54 will be too heavy for standard tuning.

TS, if you have some money to spend on a new guitar, I would buy another guitar. It's always good to have a backup instrument.
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I used the Hybrid Slinkys Fat bottom skinny top I think its the 11-52 or something like that its been well over a year since I used them. But I ran my explorer like that for a while while playing metal it worked but as mentioned if you are used to light strings these will be like power lines in E-standard. But as a lot have mentioned I would invest in a second guitar with a vintage trem system your going to have a bit more issues with tuning stability trem systems generally don't like that kind of string tension variances that much.
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^ Yeah. And there really aren't strings that would be good for both tunings. 9-42 will be too light for C tuning and 11-54 will be too heavy for standard tuning.

TS, if you have some money to spend on a new guitar, I would buy another guitar. It's always good to have a backup instrument.


That isn't true at all, I use 11-49 in standard and its no problem. I know folks who use even heavier gauges than that in standard. SRV used 13s in Eb standard.

The real problem comes in from the tension varying so much. You'd have to adjust the truss rod where it was almost perfectly straight in C standard, then in E standard it will probably have an upbow. Not to mention the intonation will almost certainly be off for one tuning or the other.
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That isn't true at all, I use 11-49 in standard and its no problem. I know folks who use even heavier gauges than that in standard. SRV used 13s in Eb standard.

The real problem comes in from the tension varying so much. You'd have to adjust the truss rod where it was almost perfectly straight in C standard, then in E standard it will probably have an upbow. Not to mention the intonation will almost certainly be off for one tuning or the other.

OK, but if you are used to playing on 9-42 in standard (like me), I think moving to 11-49 would feel different (bends would be harder). It's of course all about preference. But I'm used to 9-42. Some guys like heavier strings.
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OK, but if you are used to playing on 9-42 in standard (like me), I think moving to 11-49 would feel different (bends would be harder). It's of course all about preference. But I'm used to 9-42. Some guys like heavier strings.


Obviously the tension is going to vary wildly if you actually did this, I was just pointing out that 11s wouldn't be t0o heavy for standard.
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