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Old 10-09-2012, 04:01 PM   #21
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I live in Ontario, Canada. The luthier (Florida), as clearly stated, is a one-man operation, and I love his work... I never play my Slash Les Paul or my JS2400 Ibanez, which should say something. As far as the Strat is concerned, he had nothing to do with the carving. That was clearly noted in the review as well (it was the work of Gig Goldstein)... who has nothing to do with the luthier's company. Nothing but ignorance. But that's OK... the poster can spend a good $800 more on someone who already gave a price. I matters not to me.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:21 PM   #22
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I'm not looking to start an argument, but this bugs me -

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I live in Ontario, Canada. The luthier (Florida), as clearly stated, is a one-man operation, and I love his work... I never play my Slash Les Paul or my JS2400 Ibanez, which should say something.


I'm really not sure what, other than you have a few expensive guitars laying around that you aren't using, which strikes me as a waste of money.

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As far as the Strat is concerned, he had nothing to do with the carving. That was clearly noted in the review as well (it was the work of Gig Goldstein)... who has nothing to do with the luthier's company.


Yes, because everyone has read the review in great detail . I'm not trying to sound rude, but I've seen your reviews before, and they tend to be very long-winded, rambling on about nothing a lot of the time. I do the same thing fairly often, but it's incredibly hard to sit and read through such material online, let alone totally absorb all of the information you've just read through.

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Nothing but ignorance. But that's OK... the poster can spend a good $800 more on someone who already gave a price. I matters not to me.


What? I'm really not sure how not knowing such details about someone elses custom guitar is a sign that someone is ignorant.

I've said it before, but you have a really weird, sort of pretentious (for lack of a better word) kind of attitude. I doubt that's how you mean to appear, and I'm sure you're a perfectly nice bloke in person, but that's just what I get out of how you write and how you come across online.

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Probably a little late with a response here, but I best reply with something rellevant after the first section of this post.

A bit of a DIY approach, but I think I've seen a few unfinished bodies that sort of shape go on ebay over the last few months. If you could get one, you could add the binding and a flamed/quilted (I can't remember what it was off of the top of my head) veneer top and get something similar. I'm sure you could get a pre made neck with a paddle headstock and cut the V shaped headstock out of that.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:37 PM   #23
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Why should it bug you that I have some guitars in a collection? I couldn't care less what you or anyone else plays, or if you own 100 guitars. I used to play them, and particularly the JS2400... but do not anymore since playing the custom guitars from Casper GT... that's all I'm saying. And it's because of the quality of his work and his prices that I'm encouraging the poster to investigate this luthier. But apparently I'm wrong for doing so... I'm pretentious, I'm this and I'm that. At least I'm not a troll making pointless comments that do not help the poster... and I do hope the poster looks into Casper's work. I can provide more information if he is interested, although the luthier's site has a lot of info on his basic models and customization.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:42 PM   #24
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Bro. Both I and Carl have offered helpful responses. We also post on different topics.
Every time you post its all "ohmygod buy Stephen Casper's guitars" and then you make a thread "this guitar is being made by different people off parts I buy and then assembled by Stephen Casper who is so amazing and you should buy stuff from him here is his website. I never play my really expensive guitars, and instead buy other really expensive guitars from stephen casper, who is amazing"

The fact is you name drop him and other people every single chance you get and then become really pretentious as it goes along. It's like you're an adbot for another person. Take Gravity Picks. He registered here and name dropped his own company here often, possibly less often than you, and subsequently got perma'd for it. You name drop Casper everywhere, and shit all happens.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:14 PM   #25
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Then ignore my posts. I don't work for the guy, I don't get paid by the guy. I suspect I'm one of the few who actually hired a luthier to make guitars for me, and I have direct experience of his products (whereas all the negative comments toward me are based on ignorance and NOT having played his instruments). Go visit TheGearPage.net and you will see MANY private luthiers on there, and even a 'small luthier companies' section where people talk about guitars not bought off the rack. If I didn't like the guy's stuff, I wouldn't even comment on it. And by the way... I love Pritchard Amps, Analog Alien pedals, Timber Tone picks, and Guitar Tracks Pro software... and I don't work for those companies either, and I do have direct experience with those products and will continue to endorse them.

But let's get back to the original post... he wanted to know if there was a luthier who could build him a particular guitar, and I stated who I KNOW could do it justice as a very reasonable price. And so... what is your problem or anyone's problem on this thread when I merely answered his question? I've never seen such haters and for no reason other than jealousy. But go ahead... tell me how I'm defensive, pretentious, or any name to help you sleep at night.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:23 PM   #26
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There you go. You assume I haven't worked with a luthier before, yet for my first year or so I had one set up my guitar twice. It's lovely that you go to many forums and yes, there are many luthiers on here as well. Fact is they leave it in their sig, or do it subtly, or at most have a single thread where they post pictures of what they are doing. You are none of those things, for you do not make guitars, and make threads showing the odd progress picture or random stock photos from people you paid them for. Its lovely you know a luthier that does good work for you. Shut up and be content, and stop name dropping him every chance you get because it really is irritating.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:33 AM   #27
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I didn't start this fire and maybe I'm wrong for not putting it out but I can't sit silent.
I've seen the two guitars you posted. They're fine. I don't like them. They're not mine. Enjoy them. Enjoy them so much that when someone asks about a luthier you say "Hey I know a guy if you're interested" and then go away. You don't say "check out so and so" and then in the same thread a day later say "yeah, you should really check out that guy". He posted the topic. He's reading the comments. If he cares he probably made note the first time you mentioned it.
One luthier/brand/whatever getting one good mention from a lot of people is a good thing. Getting a lot of good reviews from one guy on the same forum is annoying.
Readers come on here for advice. This isn't a picture book. Your guitars are well made I'm sure but you can't help any of us through any of the processes. All you're doing is posting a picture book.
I owned a custom instrument company (drums). I know how important it is to have customers pleased with stuff. Thats how you grow. But given the reaction you get on this forum I think Stephen Casper may be losing customers on principle. Whether you mean it or not you're souring his name to a lot of us.
Enjoy everything he does for you. I wish him the best success and I wish you the most happiness with your instruments. Just please don't post here and expect everyone to love everything.

Now that I'm completely off topic, OP do your research. There are a lot of people on the internet with a lot of opinions. You have to make some decisions on your own. In these situation I usually think about budget, turn around time, location, and personal contact. Find some people that interest you and take those things into consideration. Email is an awful way to sense someone's tone and personality but if you can make some phone calls you'll be able to get a sense of the person making what you want most, best.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:45 AM   #28
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I brought Casper up again (a second post) because I then discovered this person's budget... and I wanted to inform him that this person can work easily within his budget. Funny how no one bawked at the guy who recommended Mr. Jilliard, or that Mr. Jilliard offered his own services on this thread. I don't care if he does (why should I?), but obviously there are people with emotional sensitivities to me or Casper, for whatever reason. Let it go... this is not your thread and I did nothing but offer assistance to the poster. Instead this is getting ridiculous... talking about "don't post here and expect everyone to love everything." What? I gave a recommendation to the POSTER... it matters not that anyone "loves" that recommendation.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:13 AM   #29
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See, but Jillard's an actual luthier, who actually posts his builds sometimes (I think) and actually knows what he's doing. You post pictures of people who you pay to know what they're doing, and then go on about them forever. Not to mention he did it privately, in a private message. You like to post.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:28 AM   #30
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First of all, and this is no offense to Mr. Jilliard (who's now caught in the middle)... why is it that my opinion of a quality luthier is no good... when I have direct experience with that luthier (now on my third build)? I would think that an independant opinion would mean more than someone who actually offers the service. Second, the guy from Gravity Picks was put down for hocking his wears on this site... isn't that what Mr. Jilliard is doing? (Again, I don't care if he does, and if he gets some work from it, good for him!). Third, Mr. Jilliard said he PM'd him, but he clearly stated he could do it for him (offer him those services), then later provided a price in another post... hardly 'private.' A person could just PM the person without saying "I can do it for you... I sent you a PM." Fourth, I never went on about Casper GT "forever" (moronic and emotional exaggeration), and why not just drop the issue... or do you like to post as well? My recommendations is for the person who started the thread, not you or anyone else. Case closed for god's sake.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:36 AM   #31
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Here are some other very well respected luthiers who do custom work, but I am unaware of their prices:

Neal Moser
GMW Guitars
Lipe Guitars
Suhr Guitars
Ian Anderson
Thorne Guitars
John Bolin
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:33 PM   #32
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the guy from Gravity Picks was put down for hocking his wears on this site... isn't that what Mr. Jilliard is doing?


Mr. Jillard simply offered his services to the TS. There IS a difference between advertising, and offering your services to someone who asks.

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First of all, and this is no offense to Mr. Jilliard (who's now caught in the middle)...


He isn't caught in the middle of anything. But you sure are trying to put him there....

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I never went on about Casper GT "forever"


Technically no, not forever, but dang sure long enough already.



You seem to think Your Brain + Caspers skill = Best Guitars Ever

Quit being so arrogant. I've seen guys on this forum build guitars that would put your "outsourced" work to shame. You really need to get off your high horse already.....
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:42 PM   #33
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Advertising? I don't get paid, nor do I get discounts if people seek his services. I have no idea if he builds the best guitars ever (that is a subjective thing)... but I know what I like, and I recommend based on such (as do every person on here... I bet you recommend Culler Amps, right? Please recommend a builder to him, that puts Casper to shame... interesting since you never tried his guitars. Now, who is the arrogant worm? On another note, some other noted luthiers:

Grosh, Gallaham, Gil Yaron, Kauer, Rick Kelly, James Tyler, Chandler.

See... I can recommend other luthiers, BUT I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THEM AND CANNOT VOUCE FOR THEM, just like I would not comment on Culler Amps, sir!
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:48 PM   #34
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By the way, when is offering services not advertising? Is he doing it for free, or asking for funds in exchange for a service? duh!
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:57 PM   #35
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By the way, when is offering services not advertising? Is he doing it for free, or asking for funds in exchange for a service? duh!


While I think a lot of people are unnecessarily giving you grief, I think I should point out where in this case you are wrong. Advertising is unsolicited. At the top of my UG page right now, there is a McDonald's dollar menu ad. I didn't start a thread asking if anyone knew where I could get a cheeseburger for a dollar, and then a McDonald's rep said, "Hey, we do that."

The thread starter asked for someone with the ability to recreate a particular guitar, and some answered with "I" - others answered with "Them."
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Old 10-10-2012, 05:05 PM   #36
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My apologies if 'I' believe in something and like something... that 'I' recommend something because 'I' see value in it. We need to become communists so that 'WE' can recommend something together. Don't 'YOU' recommend a Les Paul or an Ibanez, and don't 'YOU' say that your friend is one heck of a guy (or gal). And heaven forbid if someone were to be a fan of Culler Amps and recommend them, as that would be taboo on a forum where people are asking for opinions on equipment.

How's this: It is rumoured that a particular luthier can assist you, both in the development of your guitar and in your price range. THEM fellers out there are recommending Casper Guitar Technologies.

See... I didn't use 'I' since that is now a banned word.
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Old 10-10-2012, 05:19 PM   #37
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My apologies if 'I' believe in something and like something... that 'I' recommend something because 'I' see value in it. We need to become communists so that 'WE' can recommend something together. Don't 'YOU' recommend a Les Paul or an Ibanez, and don't 'YOU' say that your friend is one heck of a guy (or gal). And heaven forbid if someone were to be a fan of Culler Amps and recommend them, as that would be taboo on a forum where people are asking for opinions on equipment.

How's this: It is rumoured that a particular luthier can assist you, both in the development of your guitar and in your price range. THEM fellers out there are recommending Casper Guitar Technologies.

See... I didn't use 'I' since that is now a banned word.


See, this is why no one likes you. You got called out for name dropping and instead of just leaving it as is (and really, you're gonna let spaz get you worked up, dudes a troll) you just go on and on making yourself look like more of a jackass.
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Ok, some people are getting time-outs.

TS, PM me if you'd like me to clean up and re-open the thread. You can also start a fresh one if you prefer.
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Indeed. I think I will recommend this thread to be closed as the original poster has had adequate responses to his original inquiry.

logicbdj, I am sending you a PM to clear up your misunderstanding/misrepresentation of what I said.
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