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Old 10-06-2012, 08:38 PM   #1
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Marshall JVM410H Help.

Hello. I'm going to upgrade from a Line 6 30w amp to a Marshall JVM 410H with a 1960A cab. I looked them up on guitar center and there seems to be two different kinds. One is priced at $3,135. http://www.guitarcenter.com/Marshal...976-i1557400.gc The other is priced at $2,699. http://www.guitarcenter.com/Marshal...485-i1370279.gc So I'm wondering what's the difference between these two?
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:07 PM   #2
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wow dude, quite the upgrade. although I think that there are much better amps in the price range, are you dead set on the JVM?

also I believe one is cheaper because it doesn't have built in reverb.
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:18 PM   #3
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Yeah it is. I've had this 30w for quite some time just practicing techniques, and I don't like the tone of it at all. I'm leaning toward the JVM, because I wanted a amp with good cleans and good distortion. I was deciding on a JCM but those are mainly good with distortion and need to be cranked up pretty high. I'm open to suggestions if you have any.

So it's just the reverb huh. I was wondering why it also calls one a tubed amp and not the other? Aren't all JVM's tubed?
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:33 PM   #4
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That's a lot of money to drop on your first tube amp. You should do some research there's sooo many nice amps out there in your price range that will cover what you want and more, and do it better than the JVM.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #5
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In that range you should get a Mesa of some sort, IMO they all blow the JVM out of the water.

It is a lot of money to drop, maybe lower it by $1500 and get a really good guitar as well. What style of music do you play?

Threads like these are fun, with a high budget
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #6
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I'll look into Mesa right now. Money is no issue I can go as high as $2,000 to $3,000.

I got a great guitar almost two years ago. I had a fake Stratocaster look-a-like and I gave it to my friend. Upgraded to a Ibanez Xiphos. So I see no need to upgrade my guitar again when I can upgrade my amp.

I play mostly metal like Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Iced Earth.
A small amount of hard rock, like Guns N' Roses and Classical.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #7
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Sounds to me you'd like a Mesa Mark V that would blow a JVM out of the water
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:30 PM   #8
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holy crap. so much money to use.

Get you a Mesa Boogie Mark V, or a Bogner Uberschall. and a Bogner Uberschall cab.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:38 PM   #9
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I'll throw Mesa Road King in the pile...
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:46 PM   #10
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I'd take an Uberschall over a road king any day.

and that is not because I am purely a Jerry Cantrell fanboy

Is there a way you could try any of these out, TS?
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:51 PM   #11
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Just different flavors. From what I've heard the Uberschall has a really kickass high end grind, which might not be ideal for classic metal like the bands he mentioned.

And I'd take a Road King over nearly any amp ever, for it is the king of all amps.

Try them out if you can, TS. Especially for an investment this big.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:52 PM   #12
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Damn so many suggestions. I've heard great things of the Mesa Boogie, but would you say the cleans are good on this amp?

I could go to my local Guitar Center and try them out tomorrow. I'm going to try out the Mesa, and the Ubershall if they have them.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:57 PM   #13
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The cleans on the mark V are the best. Plenty of options, three different types of cleans.
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You really can't go wrong with a MkV, Road King, or Uberschall. It just depends on which flavor is just right for you.

But, to plug the Road King more, you can send your cleans to a separate cabinet than your gain if, say, a Mesa 412 with V30s doesn't cut it for your cleans.

Try em' out though.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:06 PM   #15
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^+1. with that kinda budget i'd def wanna be playing before i buy.

why has no one mentioned a CEC? 3K can get you an incredible amp made by craig, the brigand is amazing. unfortunately you won't be able to try one of those unless you go to Nashville. that amp blew me away though
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why has no one mentioned a CEC? 3K can get you an incredible amp made by craig, the brigand is amazing. unfortunately you won't be able to try one of those unless you go to Nashville. that amp blew me away though

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^+1. with that kinda budget i'd def wanna be playing before i buy.

why has no one mentioned a CEC? 3K can get you an incredible amp made by craig, the brigand is amazing. unfortunately you won't be able to try one of those unless you go to Nashville. that amp blew me away though


Oh really?

You failed to mention it made one of the users here on this forum turn his Diezel into a table.



Also mkV is great and all but isn't right for the TS. Its very flexible but more of a modern voiced amp. Also a bitch to dial in so I wouldn't recommend it for someones first tube amp.

I do love mine.
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Oh really?

You failed to mention it made one of the users here on this forum turn his Diezel into a table.



matt does have a very nice coffee table now though.

seriously though, i couldn't think of an amp in that price i'd prefer.



i swear i am gonna make some clips that actually do this amp justice when i get mine.

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that clip has much better sound quality
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Get a Brigand. Not only will you have a brilliant amp with some truly original ideas you will have something that nobody else will have. That's always a good thing. The word boutique gets thrown around a lot these days but a CEC is a truly boutique amp built using nothing but the best components by a guy whose skills make me weep with envy.
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Get a Brigand. Not only will you have a brilliant amp with some truly original ideas you will have something that nobody else will have. That's always a good thing. The word boutique gets thrown around a lot these days but a CEC is a truly boutique amp built using nothing but the best components by a guy whose skills make me weep with envy.


+1

seriously, you won't find a production amp made the way craig makes that amp. the circuit is designed and every component chose for incredible effect. there is nothing in the design of that amp that compromises quality. he gets custom wound transformers, runs 3 or 4 different styles of tubes, and even runs some NOS parts that aren't readily available because he won't compromise the vision. his platform is not a renovation of an old popular amp, his circuits are original and tweaked to demanding standards.

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