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Playing!! 7 20.59%
the Artistic Side 8 23.53%
Both 19 55.88%
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:26 AM   #1
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One day I started thinking to myself that there are two sides of musical interest: liking to play an instrument and liking music, not as in listening but as an art form. I enjoy music more than I do playing, to me an instrument is just that; A tool for creating artwork. I love playing guitar but I think I like the art more. What do you guys think, is there a difference?
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:54 AM   #2
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:10 AM   #3
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Liking playing an instrument falls under the umbrella of liking music...
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:53 AM   #4
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:59 AM   #5
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I prefer songwriting & recording to either standing in front of an audience playing ma stuff or mixing music once it's recorded.

On the performance side I get total stage fright that manifests as violently shaking hands and rigidity in my fingers, coupled with memory blocks. I stare at my feet, I go bright red, I mumble. If I were a sheep and were asked to perform I'd try and hide under another sheep. I am not, IOW, a natural performer. Can't even do it in front my own family. It can even affect recording my singing sometimes - I end up having to shut the door to the 'study', close the curtains and turn the music up loud in the cans so I can pretend no-one else can hear me even though the walls are thin and I'm shouting as loud as I can.

On the mixing side: I truly hate mixing. Each mix seems to bring some new and ****ing irritating problem. I suppose some people might see that as a challenge: Me I see it as mixing being a complete arse. It's not that I don't appreciate the finished product, but - like housework - I appreciate having done it rather than enjoying the actual doing.

Songwriting OTOH: I get complete control. Don't like those lyrics? Write some more. That riff sound shit? Do something else. Fed up of writing that melody? Write a drum-beat. Bored of metal? Try country.

Songwriting I love. The rest can go to hell.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:06 AM   #6
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I enjoy playing guitar, moreso than sitting down and writing something. However I like being creative with my guitar, they aren't mutually exclusive.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:34 AM   #7
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Yup, I also play on guitar mostly for the music, rather than for the enjoyment of playing. It's not that I don't like to play, it's just the music is what really turns me on.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:07 AM   #8
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Liking playing an instrument falls under the umbrella of liking music...

You could play drums for the sport aspect
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:20 AM   #9
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #10
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You could play drums for the sport aspect


"your typical rock band consists of 3-4 musicians as well as a drummer"
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:03 PM   #11
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I like the whole musical experience. The physical playing is only a small part of it.

As far as I'm aware, there's little purpose in playing the instrument without any artistic intention. Playing guitar is making music to me.

Of course, people may disagree with me but they're wrong.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:50 PM   #12
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"your typical rock band consists of 3-4 musicians as well as a drummer"

And a bassist
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #13
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I like the whole musical experience. The physical playing is only a small part of it.

As far as I'm aware, there's little purpose in playing the instrument without any artistic intention. Playing guitar is making music to me.
Did you know there are colleges that give classes based on the TV series, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_studies I'd just thought I'd introduce some gravitas to this thread.

In that same vein, "music appreciation" studies are deemed trivial by some. Being a product of the 70's, they normally provided a justification for smoking a bunch of weed, and/or, dropping acid.

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Of course, people may disagree with me but they're wrong.
Just merely living in a hospice for the terminally wrong, doesn't give you the background or credentials to make that call....

On a more "serious note", I believe that being able to play an instrument enhances the experience of listening. And for me personally, I find playing along with music I'm listening to, has a synergistic effect, sometimes giving me more pleasure than either of the two pursuits separately.

Going to the zoo without a camera, registers the same pointlessness to me, as going to a mix tape without a guitar. (If that analog makes any sense).

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Old 10-06-2012, 10:53 PM   #14
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I like to do both. If i really had to choose writing music may be a little more enjoyable to myself, but probably because i feel like I'm better at hearing music in my head than actually making that music on the guitar, so I'm a little more limited with my guitar in a sense. I usually don't write with my guitar, i use my piano, and then i add little guitar bits into it.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:55 AM   #15
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Did you know there are colleges that give classes based on the TV series, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_studies I'd just thought I'd introduce some gravitas to this thread.


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Old 10-07-2012, 09:39 AM   #16
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I think the main problem with people who play music and think of themselves as music connoisseurs is that they become snobby when it comes to the music they listen to.

I go to school for music and it's crazy how few people genuinely like music.
What I mean is the people who say they listen to everything but when you ask if they listen to blues, they say "Yeah, I listen to Stevie Ray Vaughan." Or you ask if they listen to rap and they say "Yeah, I listen to Biggie Smalls."
But they don't really know anything about that kind of music and if you try to introduce them to other artists, they shut down and say "well it's not as good as so-and-so."

Theres probably about 4 people on my campus who I can stand to talk about music with because they're genuine music lovers and we're all in agreement that we can find something to love about just about any piece of music from any time period.
Theres a lot more to this discussion but thats for another thread.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:31 PM   #17
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I think the main problem with people who play music and think of themselves as music connoisseurs is that they become snobby when it comes to the music they listen to.
Just for the sake of argument, (which is why I make the majority of my posts), it really sounds like you're the snob.

The concept that if you don't like all music, you really can't love any of it, is patently absurd.

Many people form a lifelong attachment to the type of music prevailing in their adolescence. "The tunes you came up with", as it were.

Being a "boomer", I came up with what we now call, "golden oldies", then moved on to the various types of progressive, classical, folk, acid, and metal rock. See, I like any kind of music, as long as it's rock....

But really, the punk, disco, and rap eras, have been a living hell for me.

Then came "Sugarland", to lead me out of the wilderness, so to speak.....
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Just for the sake of argument, (which is why I make the majority of my posts), it really sounds like you're the snob.

The concept that if you don't like all music, you really can't love any of it, is patently absurd.


Thats not the point I'm trying to make. You're allowed to prefer to play any kind of music you like. You're allowed to have a certain affinity to any sort of music too. I prefer blues and funk myself. But I never listen to any sort of music and turn my nose up to it and say "this is crap. Theres not one redeeming factor in this music, if you can even call it that."
My problem is with people who are music majors and "like all kinds of music" yet if you turn on Tom Waits or something, they say "his voice sounds disgusting I don't like this."
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I don't like Tom Waits voice but I don't know that I would dislike the entire genre because of it. I like what he added to Hank III's stuff when he let him guest on some songs.
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