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Old 10-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #1
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Hey there ug community.
I hope this is the right place for this. So i have 14 songs all completed and i wanna copyright them but im having conflicting advise on what to do.
long story short i think i want to use the internet to copyright me stuff but there are quite a few websites offering this service and i want the most trusted and recognised one possible.
i also preferably want to hear back from people that have used these sites before. cheers medears.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:51 AM   #2
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:54 AM   #3
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noooooo iv heard from a number of sources that the whole poor mans copyright doesnt prove anything and does not hold up in court.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #4
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #5
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Different jurisdictions have different rules and procedures.

Usually all these online places are doing is offering to be a witness in court testifying that you sent them the copyrighted work at a certain time/date.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:03 AM   #6
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Do you seriously think your songs would ever be popular enough that you would need to copyright them?

If you really want to find out about it then contact the PRS or check this http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/p...music_copyright
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:06 AM   #7
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Do you seriously think your songs would ever be popular enough that you would need to copyright them?


probably not but they are my lifes work and i am a neurotic person by nature so i think il feel better knowing they are safe.

Im living in Ireland and the law here is that poor mans copyright will work as long as its done by special delivery.
That doesnt apply to international law though and seeing as i want to upload my stuff to youtube, myspace and whatnot then i think i need better protection than this.

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:13 AM   #8
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probably not but they are my lifes work and i am a neurotic person by nature so i think il feel better knowing im safe


Ok, well if you are in the US you can register via copyright.gov (you have to pay a fee).
The mechanical recording (ie a CD or whatever) is already copyrighted when it was made but that only applies to the recording and not the music itself. Meaning someone can't just copy it directly, they would have to rerecord it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:15 AM   #9
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Legal zoom, as low as 120 bucks you can trademark things.

Or register them with a site/company that does it for free, like bandnamr.

Registering them with a company that can send you legal proof that you made/had the name before the other band gives you a pretty good edge in court, and will stop it from even getting as far as having to appear in court a lot of time.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:16 AM   #10
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probably not but they are my lifes work and i am a neurotic person by nature so i think il feel better knowing they are safe.

Im living in Ireland and the law here is that poor mans copyright will work as long as its done by special delivery.
That doesnt apply to international law though and seeing as i want to upload my stuff to youtube, myspace and whatnot then i think i need better protection than this.


http://www.imro.ie/music-creators/faq/?forwardie6=1
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:24 AM   #11
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probably not but they are my lifes work and i am a neurotic person by nature so i think il feel better knowing they are safe.

Im living in Ireland and the law here is that poor mans copyright will work as long as its done by special delivery.
That doesnt apply to international law though and seeing as i want to upload my stuff to youtube, myspace and whatnot then i think i need better protection than this.

The Berne Convention and WIPO have you covered.

As long as you're good in one of the signatory jurisdictions, you're good in all of them pretty much.

If you're willing to pay to do this, you might as well find a lawyer and get professional advice. At least that way, if they're wrong you can sue them and recover some of your losses.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:31 AM   #12
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^what he said, make someone liable for your loss, if shit goes bad.

Publishing my music on itunes, I was told to register it with the trademark/patent place, but if I couldn't afford to, just put my band name. It is neither registered with a trademark/copyright,or patent with the US, but it is registered on quite a few sites where I could for little to no money.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:06 PM   #13
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Here in Australia, when you write a song you automatically own the copyright simply because you wrote it

patents and trademarks are different, and have to be applied for

our way seems like a commonsense approach - good times
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