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Old 10-07-2012, 01:24 AM   #1
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Hot Rod Deluxe

My AC30 does that british rock tone really good but the cleans aren't exactly well "clean" when your talking about Jazz and funk etc.

I was wondering how the HRD goes with drive since I know that the cleans are great for it's price range, cause I would like to play some Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Cream, and other classic rock n roll bands. The heaviest I play is Green Day (think their new album Uno and their oldest album Dookie, none of the other crap).

Just want to know how good the HRD goes on drive. The only pedal I really have is a BOSS SD-1. I'll try the amp out but at the moment I'm way too busy.

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Old 10-07-2012, 01:24 AM   #2
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Andertons did a good demo of the drive, unsure if that'd be enough though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...k89MbtoQ4U&NR=1

Oh I also gig unmicced.

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Old 10-07-2012, 01:26 AM   #3
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You're better off with a Marshall 18 watt variant of some kind.

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Old 10-07-2012, 01:28 AM   #4
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The drive channel is an abomination. There are however quite a few mods out there in the wild that will sort it out. You're actually better off running it on the clean channel with a nice boost (not a DS-1) in front of it if you don't mod it.
Really, seeing as how they are effectively a single channel amp you're better off finding an actual old single channel Fender like a Twin or a Bandmaster, the older the better.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:28 AM   #5
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$1000 ^ Cleans are important to me though, as is a master volume!

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Old 10-07-2012, 01:31 AM   #6
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HRD drive sucks.

Pair a Twin with a Wampler Plextortion. and you're fine for cleans and classic rock.

EDIT: Would you be getting rid of your AC30?
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If you keep the AC30, set up a dual amp rig so you can switch between a clean Fender and the AC30. That'd be brilliant.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:35 AM   #8
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DeVille drive is worse. hence the lack of one if my rig as of today

a Fender Deluxe Reverb would be good, with maybe a Wampler of sorts and a Fulltone OCD for blues.
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If you keep the AC30, set up a dual amp rig so you can switch between a clean Fender and the AC30. That'd be brilliant.

That'd be ideal if you're not selling the AC30 for this new amp.
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If you keep the AC30, set up a dual amp rig so you can switch between a clean Fender and the AC30. That'd be brilliant.

Fantastic combination. A blackface Fender Twin AB'ed with an AC30 is even better though - classic setup that is.
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Don't really have the money for both unfortunately!
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Check Craigslist for a nice old blackface or even silverface. One of the big ones. Then just stick a nice pedal or two in front of it. People pick up the most amazing deals in the US on those old Fenders, we see it all the time. That's the path I'd take 'twer I you.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:05 AM   #14
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I thought the AC-30 was known for it's cleans? I got rid of mine because it just had too much damn headroom and I couldn't blast it at the time to get it to break up.
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I thought the AC-30 was known for it's cleans? I got rid of mine because it just had too much damn headroom and I couldn't blast it at the time to get it to break up.

Depends what input he's using, my guess is he's using the top boost for the grit.

TS, if you're going the Fender route, grab this as your dirt.

Alternatively, why not set the gain on the amp back a little and utilise the volume knob on your guitar to clean it up?
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That is a good point. An AC30 should be able to clean up quite nicely. This may be a simple case of operator error. Back off your guitar's volume knob a bit.
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You should be very well off with your AC30. Try using an ABY pedal to switch between the two inputs, top boost for dirt and normal for yer jazz.
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The drive channel is an abomination. There are however quite a few mods out there in the wild that will sort it out. You're actually better off running it on the clean channel with a nice boost (not a DS-1) in front of it if you don't mod it.
Really, seeing as how they are effectively a single channel amp you're better off finding an actual old single channel Fender like a Twin or a Bandmaster, the older the better.


+1 (though i haven't tried those drive channel mods... but stock, yeah, it's pretty much a single-channel amp )
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I had a hot rod deluxe and I hated the drive channel. It had no balls and was terribly muddled sounding.


I cranked up the clean channel instead and boosted it with an OD. It actually sounded pretty nice. Especially through the Marshall 4x10 I had at the time
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:22 AM   #20
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Agreed with the others. You should easily be able to get some jazz cleans out of that amp.

John Scofield swears by AC30's.

Also, I recall reading in one of your other posts that you use a strat.. Yeah? I don't really try to play Jazz with single coil guitars, but you should be fine if you just roll down the tone on the neck pickup. Also try the neck-middle pickup.



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