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Old 10-06-2012, 10:44 PM   #1
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Do you guys think that transcribing music with another person would be as beneficial?

Me and my younger brother are both musicians; me guitar and basic piano, he trumpet and basic piano.
We decided to start transcribing music from video games that we played when we were little kids together. Like mario and sonic and zelda. Well, today we transcribed one of the songs together and it was really fun. We could both hear some things that the other couldn't, and help each other out, but for the most part we both were on the same level. however, maybe doing something like this with another person doesn't work out for yourself as well? Do you think that it would be more beneficial if we were to transcribe separately? I just don't know
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:00 PM   #2
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I don't see how transcribing with someone would be beneficial. I'd imagine it would be more of a crutch than anything. He'll pick up your slack, you'll pick up his. Instead of strengthening your weaknesses, you could be only catering to your strengths. Of course, that might not be the case at all, but I still can't think of how this interaction would be beneficial to either of you, except for maybe making something that's a chore into a more pleasurable experience.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:06 PM   #3
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This is a knee jerk answer, s don't attach too much significance to it.

It would probably benefit both parties, but I think it would benefit the member of the team with the weaker skills more.

I see the dynamic breaking along teacher student lines.

That of course, assumes a different skill level.

Or scenario "B", wherein in it makes both parties a tad lazy, in a big festival of codependency.....

Again, just random thoughts, in no particular order. Although the "scenario B" nomenclature, sort of puts the kabosh on the, "no particular order" aspect......

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So, basically, do it on our own, and then compare?
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:16 PM   #5
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So, basically, do it on our own, and then compare?
You could probably teach each other more by comparing and discussing the differences.

It sort of revolves around the question, "would there have been a "Rogers", without a "Hammerstein". Was it a codependent, a synergistic relationship, or was it both?

In the case of Lennon and McCartney, it's a slam dunk for synergistic. OTOH, neither one was really that good (IMO of course), without the other. So co dependent then? You see how this could rapidly escalate to an all night existential discussion?

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Old 10-06-2012, 11:23 PM   #6
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it gives you some verification, and it's great for horn/keys parts. i was in a latin/mexican/salsa/mixed cover band with 2 other guys and we all worked out horn/bass parts and chords with an old keyboard while we drew up the lyric sheets.

with regards to how effectively it helps you learn to hear - it's not a race, you don't get an achievement after so long if you do it one way or another. if you're better at finding a part working alone, do that. if this works better, do that.

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Old 10-06-2012, 11:28 PM   #7
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Do it together. Help each other, motivate each other and make it more fun.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #8
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I see two sides to this coin.

On the positive side, this means you're actually doing it. If you weren't doing it with your friend, would you be doing it at all? If the answer is no, then this is a net plus.

On the minus side, it means you're not pushing yourself as hard when you are doing it. Rather than fight through trial and error when you're really stuck, your friend is carrying the load.

Which of those factors dominates depends on who you are. Generally, I think things that make "homework" fun are usually a net positive because they mean you do more of it, but only you can really answer that question.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:10 AM   #9
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yeah it's good to do things together.

yes you should try to practice some on your own too but working with other people is a good thing and it's fun. You should keep doing this with your brother.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:28 AM   #10
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Do it together. Help each other, motivate each other and make it more fun.


This. +1000.

It provides for great motivation, makes it seem like less of a chore and keeps you motivated and doing it more often.
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It provides for great motivation, makes it seem like less of a chore and keeps you motivated and doing it more often.
But...., it IS a chore......
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:23 PM   #12
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:32 PM   #13
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:52 PM   #14
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Thanks guys! I'll take everyones advice and do it both ways, alone and with him. The way i see it, it'll only make it more fun, and there for i'll get better faster
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You can also see how the leads go together with the rhythms with 2 people, help learning little harmony aspects of some of the songs.
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I think you should be doing some by yourself too, but working together can be a lot of fun and useful. I know when I get stumped by something I ask my buddy for help and while I often disagree, what he hears often acts as a useful clue for what I'm after.
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