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Old 10-13-2012, 06:34 AM   #141
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But let's compare it to the rest of UG. I'd be very surprised if it was significantly higher.

And also, there's the fact that education doesn't necessarily correlate with intelligence.

Surely if people get the highest possible education they are intelligent?
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:34 AM   #142
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Most people overestimate their intelligence, as do I.

I mean, just because I speak 4 languages fluently and one a little less fluent, passed a sociology exam without even looking at the main book I was supposed to read and manage to dominate every dinner discussion doesn't mean I'm intelligent. It means I'm good at summing up positive facts about my intellect while leaving out the negative aspects.


For instance, I always zone out when two people are talking and I am not directly included. I then try to get back into the conversation by saying something obvious about the subject, which is sometimes something they literally just said. Now that just makes one look dumb.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #143
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Surely if people get the highest possible education they are intelligent?

No.
Consider: when my parents attended university, only 5-10% of school leavers went to university.
Today, somewhere over 40% of school leavers go to university.

That's not because 4 times as many people are intelligent enough, it's because more spaces have been made available.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:18 AM   #144
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No.
Consider: when my parents attended university, only 5-10% of school leavers went to university.
Today, somewhere over 40% of school leavers go to university.

That's not because 4 times as many people are intelligent enough, it's because more spaces have been made available.

While I agree with you, I think we should also consider that because of that, more people are educated for longer nowadays than they used to be, which I would imagine must have some sort of an effect on the average intelligence of the population.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:30 AM   #145
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If we appear smarter on average than some other forum, then it's probably because we're a little more grown up. Compared to any forum with a similar demographic, we aren't that different.


Woah. This just made me realize that I've been here for 6 years, since I was 15.

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Old 10-13-2012, 08:13 AM   #146
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No.
Consider: when my parents attended university, only 5-10% of school leavers went to university.
Today, somewhere over 40% of school leavers go to university.

That's not because 4 times as many people are intelligent enough, it's because more spaces have been made available.


In the Netherlands, university is the highest level. Only 5-10% of the people go there.

We have different higher educations for less intelligent people.

Problem is that some countries call all education after high school university, while there is a distinct level difference.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:19 AM   #147
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While I agree with you, I think we should also consider that because of that, more people are educated for longer nowadays than they used to be, which I would imagine must have some sort of an effect on the average intelligence of the population.

Possibly.
However, is it not also possible that previous generations have had similar intellectual potential, but that more people are now able to realise more of that potential due to increased availability and duration of education?
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:34 AM   #148
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Possibly.
However, is it not also possible that previous generations have had similar intellectual potential, but that more people are now able to realise more of that potential due to increased availability and duration of education?

It is, but in the Netherlands university still means something. It is that other countries just call all higher education university that is the problem.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:39 AM   #149
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I'd say so. But I'm arrogant and pretentious.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:02 AM   #150
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It's really hard to judge people you don't really talk to in person. If I compare most people here to the posters I see on 9GAG every day, I'd say you're practically Einsteins. And nothing changes if compare you to the people I can't stand IRL.

Since I have learnt a bunch of interesting stuff here, I'm going to say there's a bit of IQ somewhere beneath the raging currents of troll fat. Voting for average.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:41 AM   #152
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I think the pit is pretty smartz.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:21 AM   #153
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It is, but in the Netherlands university still means something. It is that other countries just call all higher education university that is the problem.

I have no idea what countries you're referring to, tbh.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #154
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I have no idea what countries you're referring to, tbh.

I thought England and the USA only have "universities"
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #155
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I thought England and the USA only have "universities"


There's also junior colleges and community colleges.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:44 AM   #156
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There's also junior colleges and community colleges.

And don't forget tech schools.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:45 AM   #157
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There's also junior colleges and community colleges.


Yeah but aren't community colleges universities too? >.>

Anyway, I thought the American system was more that the university you're in defines your "level". In the Netherlands there's not really a difference. It's all the same. We are already selected at the age of 12 to different school levels, and they also define what you can do when you're done with highschool. VWO and Gymnasium (+/-10% of the population) go to the University.
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Community colleges have certificate and two year degree programs.

The university you go to defines how much you pay here.
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Yeah but aren't community colleges universities too? >.>


Universities here usually are 4 year facilities. Community colleges are only usually 2 year.

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That too
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Universities here usually are 4 year facilities. Community colleges are only usually 2 year.



That too


Ok good to know. Here we have MBO (4 years for jobs like: electrician, carpenter etc), HBO (4 years for jobs like teacher, all kinds of stuff in the medical profession apart from doctors ) and University for all good paying jobs with less applied stuff.
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