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Old 10-18-2012, 01:03 PM   #1
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How to write different genres?

When I'm writing, all my songs sound similar,( the style and structure, not the melody). how can I force myself the write differently? Thanks
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:30 PM   #2
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Listen to more genres.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:53 PM   #3
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:20 PM   #4
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Maggara's advice is good, too, but I'd be remiss if I didn't ask: how good is your ear?
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:38 PM   #5
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How do you write your songs? Do you just noodle on your guitar (that could be the reason)? Or do you get an inspiration and start hearing melodies/riffs/rhythms in your head?
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:24 PM   #6
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i get ideas in my head but when i play them they would be similar to another song i wrote, same picking patterns etc
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:07 PM   #7
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:31 PM   #8
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The problem for you is not a lack of genre variety. It's that your writing skills are low. Address that and everything else will sort itself out naturally.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:40 PM   #9
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When I improvise it's usually in the style of the genre I've been listening to lately, the genre I'm in the mood for I'd say.
And yes, listen to different genres, listen to some jazz and mostly, listen to genres that you aren't really used to play, listen to some classical music and try to play some parts of it by ear for example.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:42 PM   #10
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The problem for you is not a lack of genre variety. It's that your writing skills are low. Address that and everything else will sort itself out naturally.


I agree with this, all my songs sounded the same when I started writing.

Just keep writing, everyone has a million shit ideas they must trudge through to get too the good ones.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:14 PM   #11
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i get ideas in my head but when i play them they would be similar to another song i wrote, same picking patterns etc


What he said about songwriting skills, above.

But also ...

Focus on melody, and focus on developing your ear.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:37 PM   #12
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but uhh to play/learn different genres. just immerse yourself into a particular genre, look up tabs, play another or learn it by ear. listen to how the person playing guitar or piano doesn't matter, approaches the genre of the song.
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Maggara's advice is good, too, but I'd be remiss if I didn't ask: how good is your ear?


If you didn't ask that I'd know you were an impostor.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:28 AM   #14
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i get ideas in my head but when i play them they would be similar to another song i wrote, same picking patterns etc

But are the ideas in your head the same, or is the problem that you can't make them sound the way you heard them in your head when you try to play them?
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But are the ideas in your head the same, or is the problem that you can't make them sound the way you heard them in your head when you try to play them?


Elegantly asked, Seagull.
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You have NO idea how long it took me to figure out how to phrase that
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:35 AM   #17
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That's my problem.. I get a great idea in my head, but have trouble getting that sound on the guitar.. I have been playing guitar for 5 years, but only recently started writing my own stuff.. I guess that just comes with practice..
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That's my problem.. I get a great idea in my head, but have trouble getting that sound on the guitar.. I have been playing guitar for 5 years, but only recently started writing my own stuff.. I guess that just comes with practice..


Then yes, it's a problem with your ear and, more importantly, the unique note patterns on the guitar. Train your ear and learn all the notes on the guitar neck. That should make a big difference.

Also, whats with the 2 month gap
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:46 PM   #19
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When I'm writing, all my songs sound similar,( the style and structure, not the melody). how can I force myself the write differently? Thanks


I'm gonna make a different suggestion. That being, that it's quite possible that you expect too much 'variety' in your sound, for lack of a better term.

This is all my own personal opinion, but I think sometimes people get too hung up on trying to sound "unique" or "different", or that any song that isn't a Punk/Neo-classical/Folk fusion written in Q Hexolydian over a Z-sharp minor Vietnamese scale using suspended dominant eighty-twoth chords in 12/92nd time is just another 3-chord bubblegum throwaway, and honestly, that's just not true.

Ask yourself, "does what I wrote sound good to me?", not "did I use enough notes/is that chord weird enough?". Because there's a fine line between "creative" and "pretentious", and you can really burn yourself out chasing "originality" for its own sake.

Consequently, you don't have to jump genres just to get a good sound.

But, that's just me.

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Carson, i disagree.
Q Hexalydian is one of the most beautiful scales in all of music. Are you telling TS NOT to make his music beautiful? Tsk tsk. And i thought we were supposed to be HELPING people.
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