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Question about atonality and its usefulness
While making a guitar practice schedule (which is based on the styles I want to play) I came across this thing called atonal melody. It appeared in an article about J-rock. After doing some search is seems atonality is a piece without a tonal centre. So is this like mindless chromatic shredding? How can I imagine/play atonal melodies? Should I practice it? Is it useful?
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That's certainly one approach.
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Probably not.
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Outside of a horror movie soundtrack, I see little use for it. Have you ever listened to atonal music before? Shit's unnerving as hell to me.
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I can't believe no-one picked up on this part yet. Anyway, knowing how to craft atonal music probably isn't a useful skill unless you're interested in contemporary classical music.
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I suppose you could try transcribing some lol
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![]() Also J-Rock + atonal, wtf? Don't even bother. |
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↑ I'll claim ignorance on my part. Everything I've ever been shown to be atonal gives me such an anxious feeling. If you have an example that doesn't then I will gladly recant my statement.
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I don't really care about the bit about it unnerving you, how you respond to music is your business. I just hate when people can only relate to contemporary classical music by saying it's like a horror movie. ![]() But... I don't find (the first few minutes at least) of this particularly unnerving. You might though. ![]() That ****ing picture doesn't help my case... |
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it's not mindless shredding. i think it can be really beautiful and can evoke certain emotions 'tonal' music can't. it is a bit harder to get into, but i think that's a western culture thing. i love fooling around atonaly.
and saying things like 'there's no use for it outside horror movies' is dumb i think. a musician might find that atonal music is what works best for him. and music has no practical use anyway. |
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Hey, it's just my opinion, no reason to get all testy guys. Music is subjective, and I'm subject to believe that atonal's nature creates an anxious and dreadful vibe like one would find in horror movies. I don't mean it to be dismissive, that's just the mood it creates when I hear it. If that's what you want to go for with your own music then that's your deal. Different strokes. Usefulness is also a subjective term as well.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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This ain't scary:
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Modes and scales are dumb and useless. Stop learning them. No, seriously. Analyzing Brahms: Insights to Help Us Improve Our Music Nelsean attempting to pronounce my name lol I got Last.fm. Don't know why... |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Ah, Berg.
Or as I call him, Webern's dim-witted sidekick. |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Ah, Berg.
Or as I call him, better than Webern.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKD_...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fdi...ture=plpp_video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAr...ture=plpp_video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnuA...ture=plpp_video
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I meant that more towards cubs for calling my opinion dumb, but it doesn't really matter. I can agree to disagree, and will leave this thread alone after this post. Quote:
I don't find it scary per sé, just unsettling because it never resolves to anything. Not really something I care to sit down and have a cup of coffee listening to is all I'm trying to say. /Opinion
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it's an acquired taste
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18 Posts into a thread about atonality and not one mention of Schoenburg? My, my, my.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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There are a lot of composers shown here that are from the 2nd Viennese School, aka Schoenberg.
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