JoeFlips

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In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?

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pachap

The way this discussion is going you probably should have included a definition of objectively...

Pass on the cheap Epiphones. See sig... I had one, modded the crap out it, and still had a cheap Epiphone. It just wasn't a very playable guitar, even after extensive set-up work. I don't know what the fretboard was made of, but if it was rosewood, it was the worst ever.

I'm not completely knocking Epiphone, I'd love to have a Casino, but there are better budget guitars out there for the money.

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gasleak

I play an Epiphone LP100 which I put Gibson 490T and 498R pickups into. I love that guitar.
Also I play an Epiphone Les Paul Junior which is an awesome guitar.
Id buy Gibsons but I cant afford it.

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Pink Muse

I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can appreciate the view; with a $300 guitar, more people are willing to mod it more, and take a risk changing pickups and other hardware, and practice things like neck shaving.

Not saying they're automatically better than a Gibson, but "more versatile" could be taken to mean "more modded," and Epiphones could certainly fit that bill.

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LesPaulGuy514

I can agree with that, I was going with the definition of "versatile" more applying to sound than modding.

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Half Step

Good advice so far from others.

I'd have to recommend Rondo before low end Epi's. Quite a few all mahogany set neck and neck through models for less than 200 bucks.

Metal_Mesh

I bought a Epi SG Junior for 60 USD and I'm very happy with it. Sure it is made out of plywood, but i got some really nice tone. Someone have probably swapped the pickup for a better one, but still: I like it.

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treborillusion

Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

I'm a snob with my 1996 Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul Standard that I had my favourite pickups put in to, but, I could tell you right now, those new Chinese made low end Epiphones, are fire wood.

Skysc

right now if your in the u.s .. your best bet is the agile 3010 series at 299 $ on certain model ... instead of the 425 $ regular price . the only difference id the graphtech bridge i believe


299 $ and you got a nice guitar for the money . better than most epiphone lower range or standard .

http://www.rondomusic.com/product5552.html


check out the other model ... the 3010 is better than the 2000 series ( ebony fretboard , better fretjob etc.. ) and for 299 .. = very nice guitar .. they usually cost 425 .

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SteveHOC

In case anyone was interested in the 61 SG reissues Epiphone put out; Same Day Music has them, new, for $300. That's $100 less than anywhere else I've seen them, and the same price I paid for mine "blemished". Very cool guitars, pretty sweet deal. Just a heads up! I'd buy the yellow color, but my wife would probably kill me.

Paddynbob

In that the burst buckers are only good for a few things, imo. Is my opinion allowed?

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H4T3BR33D3R

How is a burstbucker limiting? Last time I checked, you can play anything on a burst.

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Only at times, though.

OP-IVY

I don't think it's fair to judge an entire brand from playing just one of their guitars. Every major brand produces duds - even Gibson. My Epi lp custom is a killer guitar and it's built like a tank. I've been playing out with it for nearly seven years and the only mods i've done are a set of Schallers and a JB.

H4T3BR33D3R

This thread isn't about the whole company though. TS is asking about the lower end models

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Only at times, though.

paruwi

there is NO general consensus............

Boonnoo666

I didn't like the feel, it was unnatural. And the tone was a bit restricted and boring.
Just my opinion

T00DEEPBLUE

I'm genuinely curious.

Why was it unnatural-sounding and feeling?

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DanTheHobbit

Buy a cheap guitar and consider yourself lucky if you enjoy it without modifications. Sometimes, my burritos at Taco Bell are perfectly fine. Usually, I need to add plenty of sauce to make it worthwhile.

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H4T3BR33D3R

The difference being a cheap burrito costs you 90 cents. If you buy a cheap guitar and you hate it, you're out 200 dollars.


Furthermore, down the street I can go to a taco stand with fresh crap for 1.25. I'm probably happier I looked around first before going to Taco Bell.

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Only at times, though.