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Old 10-21-2012, 06:31 PM   #21
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Mate, don't let anyone tell you Epis are shit. They are some of the best value for money guitars, and are more versatile than Gibbos. I got one to replace my BC Warbeast, never looked back. Like it equally as much as my Gibson

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Please tell me how an Epiphone is more versatile than a Gibson.

Please, enlighten me.

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In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:55 PM   #22
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In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?


The way this discussion is going you probably should have included a definition of objectively...

Pass on the cheap Epiphones. See sig... I had one, modded the crap out it, and still had a cheap Epiphone. It just wasn't a very playable guitar, even after extensive set-up work. I don't know what the fretboard was made of, but if it was rosewood, it was the worst ever.

I'm not completely knocking Epiphone, I'd love to have a Casino, but there are better budget guitars out there for the money.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:20 PM   #23
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I play an Epiphone LP100 which I put Gibson 490T and 498R pickups into. I love that guitar.
Also I play an Epiphone Les Paul Junior which is an awesome guitar.
Id buy Gibsons but I cant afford it.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:55 PM   #24
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In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?

I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can appreciate the view; with a $300 guitar, more people are willing to mod it more, and take a risk changing pickups and other hardware, and practice things like neck shaving.

Not saying they're automatically better than a Gibson, but "more versatile" could be taken to mean "more modded," and Epiphones could certainly fit that bill.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:27 PM   #25
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I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can appreciate the view; with a $300 guitar, more people are willing to mod it more, and take a risk changing pickups and other hardware, and practice things like neck shaving.

Not saying they're automatically better than a Gibson, but "more versatile" could be taken to mean "more modded," and Epiphones could certainly fit that bill.


I can agree with that, I was going with the definition of "versatile" more applying to sound than modding.
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:53 AM   #26
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I'm thinking about selling my BC Rich Warlock because I'm not a fan of it and buying an Epiphone or two with the money I get for it. I can't help wondering about the prices of the cheaper ones compared to quality, however.

What's the general strain of thought about Epiphone guitars, the low-end models in particular? I'm thinking of perhaps getting a Les Paul Junior (one with a humbucker rather than a P-90) and a Goth Les Paul or an Explorer GT, what do people think of them? Thanks!


Good advice so far from others.

I'd have to recommend Rondo before low end Epi's. Quite a few all mahogany set neck and neck through models for less than 200 bucks.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:13 AM   #27
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I bought a Epi SG Junior for 60 USD and I'm very happy with it. Sure it is made out of plywood, but i got some really nice tone. Someone have probably swapped the pickup for a better one, but still: I like it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:27 AM   #28
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Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

I'm a snob with my 1996 Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul Standard that I had my favourite pickups put in to, but, I could tell you right now, those new Chinese made low end Epiphones, are fire wood.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:28 PM   #29
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right now if your in the u.s .. your best bet is the agile 3010 series at 299 $ on certain model ... instead of the 425 $ regular price . the only difference id the graphtech bridge i believe


299 $ and you got a nice guitar for the money . better than most epiphone lower range or standard .

http://www.rondomusic.com/product5552.html


check out the other model ... the 3010 is better than the 2000 series ( ebony fretboard , better fretjob etc.. ) and for 299 .. = very nice guitar .. they usually cost 425 .
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:52 PM   #30
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In case anyone was interested in the 61 SG reissues Epiphone put out; Same Day Music has them, new, for $300. That's $100 less than anywhere else I've seen them, and the same price I paid for mine "blemished". Very cool guitars, pretty sweet deal. Just a heads up! I'd buy the yellow color, but my wife would probably kill me.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:12 AM   #31
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Please tell me how an Epiphone is more versatile than a Gibson.

Please, enlighten me.


In that the burst buckers are only good for a few things, imo. Is my opinion allowed?
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:43 AM   #32
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In that the burst buckers are only good for a few things, imo. Is my opinion allowed?


How is a burstbucker limiting? Last time I checked, you can play anything on a burst.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:07 PM   #33
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I don't think it's fair to judge an entire brand from playing just one of their guitars. Every major brand produces duds - even Gibson. My Epi lp custom is a killer guitar and it's built like a tank. I've been playing out with it for nearly seven years and the only mods i've done are a set of Schallers and a JB.
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I don't think it's fair to judge an entire brand from playing just one of their guitars. Every major brand produces duds - even Gibson. My Epi lp custom is a killer guitar and it's built like a tank. I've been playing out with it for nearly seven years and the only mods i've done are a set of Schallers and a JB.


This thread isn't about the whole company though. TS is asking about the lower end models
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:17 PM   #35
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General consensus on low-end Epiphones?


there is NO general consensus............
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:48 PM   #36
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What was wrong with it? What was the model?

I didn't like the feel, it was unnatural. And the tone was a bit restricted and boring.
Just my opinion
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:18 PM   #37
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I didn't like the feel, it was unnatural. And the tone was a bit restricted and boring.
Just my opinion

I'm genuinely curious.

Why was it unnatural-sounding and feeling?
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Buy a cheap guitar and consider yourself lucky if you enjoy it without modifications. Sometimes, my burritos at Taco Bell are perfectly fine. Usually, I need to add plenty of sauce to make it worthwhile.
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Buy a cheap guitar and consider yourself lucky if you enjoy it without modifications. Sometimes, my burritos at Taco Bell are perfectly fine. Usually, I need to add plenty of sauce to make it worthwhile.


The difference being a cheap burrito costs you 90 cents. If you buy a cheap guitar and you hate it, you're out 200 dollars.


Furthermore, down the street I can go to a taco stand with fresh crap for 1.25. I'm probably happier I looked around first before going to Taco Bell.
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Buy a cheap guitar and consider yourself lucky if you enjoy it without modifications. Sometimes, my burritos at Taco Bell are perfectly fine. Usually, I need to add plenty of sauce to make it worthwhile.

False economy.
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