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Old 10-25-2012, 02:47 PM   #1
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Tube amplifier at lower volumes

Hey!

I am looking to upgrade my Yamaha THR5 to a small tube amplifier.
I live in an apartment and decibels MUST stay very low.

I know from experience that turned down tube amplifier does not sound good at all.

I play blues, not really clean, not really heavy. Let's say from pride and joy to ZZ Top.

I am looking into the Jet City Isolation cabinet but I have no clue how it sound trough a mixer / headphones and when you add the amp head, the cabinet, the microphone and the mixer.. the bill gets pretty high.

Therefore, are there 5 watters tube amplifiers which come with an attenuator or something like that?

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Old 10-25-2012, 02:50 PM   #2
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Tube amps are loud.

I mean, how low are we talking here? From your post I'm inclined to say tube amps aren't for you.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:52 PM   #3
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Blackstar HT-1 is probably your best bet. They break up nicely at relatively low volumes but also have a headphones jack too.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:53 PM   #4
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You can get a 1w tube amp if you want, it's still going to be pretty loud if you turn it up at all.

Not all tube amps sound bad at low volumes, that's a myth.

What would be an acceptable volume level?
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:55 PM   #5
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Whats your price range?

Vox ac4tv would probably suit your needs. It can be set at 4, 1, or 1/4 watts. You would have to pick up and od pedal was well.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:02 PM   #6
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What about the isolation cabinet, do you guys have any experience with that?
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:03 PM   #7
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a marshall class 5 version II with the power scale option on the back would be another good option.

it as well has a headphone jack.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:08 PM   #8
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You're really gonna spend a ton of money and probably not end up with anything much better than a good multifx could do.

If I were in your boat I'd just buy something like a POD (but whatever the high quality model is these days, I'm not really familiar) and a good pair of headphones and be done. For those occasions where you can play loud you'd just need a keyboard amp or powered speaker.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:08 PM   #9
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If I was in that situation the Vox AC4TV would be my choice. Its exremely quiet, especially in 1/4 watt mode. I wasn't too fussed on the sound, but its not bad by any means. I guess I see Vox and start thinking AC30 Which is isn't, at all.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:18 PM   #10
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Tubemeister series for sure. I purchase a TM5 for similar issues with noise in a strata controlled building, being able to plug the amp directly into your computer and use your recording interface to play the sound through monitors is amazing I keep the amp fully cranked and control the volume via the powered monitors so I get cranked tube amp tone at a level that is lower then my TV. Redbox ftw.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:19 PM   #11
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The real question is can you ever crank an amp? If the answer is no then don't bother with tube. If you can, let's say once or twice a month, then maybe I can see some value... Otherwise a multifx or modeler is the way to go.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:20 PM   #12
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In your situation you just simply don't get a tube amp. Even at lowest settings they are prone to pissing people off due to the way they behave, regardless of the wattage. Wattage is not a measure of volume, and tube amps are not for quiet playing.


Look into a Fender Mustang I or II. It will be an upgrade and will do what you want and piss nobody off. Plus it has a headphone jack, something that a majority of all-tube amps don't have.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:26 PM   #13
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What would be an acceptable volume level?

All of this is conjecture until this gets answered.
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Yep. So far it's "how long is a piece of string?" I don't think a 30W tube amp turned up to 10 is too loud, others think a 1 W on half volume is too loud.
What do you call too loud?
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Let's say maximum decibels would be talking level + a bit.
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You're really gonna spend a ton of money and probably not end up with anything much better than a good multifx could do.
IMO best answer.
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Epic tone at talking volumes? Care to share your drugs?

Buy a Pod.
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Let's say maximum decibels would be talking level + a bit.

That's pretty low as far as tube amps are concerned.

If I was you, I would get a USB audio interface and pick up Guitar Rig 5 and just play through your computer. You can then buy some nice studio headphones and jam out all day and night perfectly quiet.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:55 PM   #19
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What about the Fender Super Champ X2 trough an Orange 1X12 cabinet?
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:57 PM   #20
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Why would you buy an extenstion cab for it?

Dude, talking volume is just not practical for guitar. Use headphones.

A Superchamp X2 is $349 and the PPC112 is $379... You can get one hell of a multifx for that.
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