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Old 10-27-2012, 05:57 PM   #1
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HELP ME CHOOSE - American Strat, MIM Strat or USA Les Paul

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Torn between three pre-owned guitars as a choice for a 2nd axe. My main guitar is a Wolfgang Standard, and I love it...but I keep it tuned half-step down for 80's stuff (VH / Dokken / etc, etc) and want another electric to keep in standard tuning.
I've narrowed it down to these t guitars simply because both sellers are willing to do a trade+cash deal (I'm asking for $400 credit for my trade item). I have NO preference of pickups / tone / features etc, etc.

Assuming all guitars play/perform exactly as they should, which guitar would YOU choose for YOU...and WHY. If you don't like any of them, you can choose "none of the above" as well.

Again...I know you cant choose FOR ME...I wanna know which one you would choose and the reason for your choice.





First Choice: 2006 Fender American Stratocaster, originally white, owner had it professionally refinished by a guitar shop - Mint (distressed) condition. Comes with tweed aftermarket HSC





COST: My trade (=$400 credit) + $200 CASH



Second Choice: 1998 Gibson USA Les Paul Special SL, Heritage Cherry - mint condition - no mods. Comes with SKB HSC.




COST: My trade + $150 CASH



Third Choice: Fender (MIM) Classic 50's Players Strat, Sonic Blue - excellent condition - EMG bridge pickup. Comes with Gator HSC.



COST: My trade + $100 CASH







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Old 10-27-2012, 06:08 PM   #2
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We can't tell you what guitar is best for you based on a lack of preference in hardware or information about your style of play. Can you play them? The only way to make an informed choice is to play the guitars and see which feels best to you.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:09 PM   #3
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:38 PM   #4
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We can't tell you what guitar is best for you based on a lack of preference in hardware or information about your style of play. Can you play them? The only way to make an informed choice is to play the guitars and see which feels best to you.


YOU MISSED THE POINT OF THE QUESTION. I just want to know what YOU would choose. If none of the above, you can choose that as well.

I have edited my OP to avoid further confusion.

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Old 10-27-2012, 06:39 PM   #5
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The Les Paul is the best deal of the bunch in terms of money value, though not by much, and 550$ is pretty much the average used price. I have seen new american strats for 600 bucks, and i'd just haggle to get the classic player strat for a bit less.

For 600$ (I'm guessing that's the budget), I wouldn't get any of these. I'd find an american standard Tele or SG, though most likely a Tele because I already have a super cool american SG.

Another edit: That first choice is far from being mint condition.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:50 PM   #6
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For 600$ (I'm guessing that's the budget), I wouldn't get any of these. I'd find an american standard Tele or SG, though most likely a Tele because I already have a super cool american SG. .


Thanks for the reply.

The budget is $200 and someone willing to trade for what I have.

SG's are the shizzle, unfortunately I haven't found one so far.

I fu*king HATE Tele's, but I cant give you a good reason why...other than I don't care for the styling, I think they feel fragile, and I don't play Country music.
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I can only try all three if I pass on the first two the first time around, and I'd hate to lose out on a good trade deal before I could schedule another meeting with the seller. But obviously I wont go through with a deal if I'm not digging what I see in person!!

I kinda want to see what the consensus is here to maybe narrow it down to two...or even one choice. My biggest concern was on the American Strat because I cant find anything similar to campare it to. So I just don't know if its a good, average, or bad deal because I dont know what a custom "distressed" 2006 Am Strat is worth.
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and I don't play Country music.

Neither does Tom Morello
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Thanks for the reply.

The budget is $200 and someone willing to trade for what I have.

SG's are the shizzle, unfortunately I haven't found one so far.

I fu*king HATE Tele's, but I cant give you a good reason why...other than I don't care for the styling, I think they feel fragile, and I don't play Country music.

My tele is most likely my most solid guitar, and I used it a lot in the recordings you can find in my signature's bandcamp. Nothing sounds like country in there, as far as I can tell.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:55 PM   #10
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i'd probably get the first on the principle that HSS is most versatile (and also it's a USA strat whereas the last one is MIM and only has 21 frets)- but i dunno about that "relic" job. o_O
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:58 PM   #11
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My tele is most likely my most solid guitar, and I used it a lot in the recordings you can find in my signature's bandcamp. Nothing sounds like country in there, as far as I can tell.


Yeah, I was being a bit facetious with that comment. But you know how when you just get something in your head about a certain thing...a preconceived notion where you automatically associate one thing with another (like welfare and minorities, or AIDS and homosexuals)? Well that's what Telecasters and Country music are for me. When I see a Tele, I hear "Twang" and picture plaid shirts with pearloid snaps, big cowboy hats slim-fit and jeans and pointy boots.

I'm not saying its right, its just...well, it just is. Hell, once upon a time I wouldn't even consider a non-humbucker, single-coil Strat...so I'm making progress!!

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Old 10-27-2012, 08:07 PM   #12
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<snip> but i dunno about that "relic" job. o_O




That was my biggest concern as well. Did he destroy the resale value of that guitar? Is $600 too much?

Actually I'm only paying $500-$550 because I'd only be able to get $300-$350 for what I'm trading him (and I only paid $390 for it new, so I'm technically making $10 on the trade)!! Either way, he isn't gonna budge on the price because he spent a good deal of money having the shop do the natural/distress finish. And now its nitrocellulose lacquer finish instead of poly-paint...not that that really matters much to me, but I guess its a big deal to some folks.

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Old 10-27-2012, 08:42 PM   #13
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I've got a 97 Les Paul Double Cut. I think it's a Studio model, everything about it is great. If that 98 LP Special is anything similar in build quality and pickups (I'm guessing it is) then I'd say go for that.
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I've got a 97 Les Paul Double Cut. I think it's a Studio model, everything about it is great. If that 98 LP Special is anything similar in build quality and pickups (I'm guessing it is) then I'd say go for that.



Its VERY similar to an SG because it uses a flat-slab mahogany body (with no maple cap) and the 490R/498T humbucker combo. Probably sounds a bit fuller because body is thicker than the SG, but other than that you're right on the money!!

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That was my biggest concern as well. Did he destroy the resale value of that guitar? Is $600 too much?

Actually I'm only paying $500-$550 because I'd only be able to get $300-$350 for what I'm trading him (and I only paid $390 for it new, so I'm technically making $10 on the trade)!! Either way, he isn't gonna budge on the price because he spent a good deal of money having the shop do the natural/distress finish. And now its nitrocellulose lacquer finish instead of poly-paint...not that that really matters much to me, but I guess its a big deal to some folks.

Knowing that a real shop did the distress job (not some dude in his garage who didn't know what he was doing) this one would be my first choice. I would take an American Standard Strat over a Les Paul Special or MIM Strat any day of the week. Add to that the HSS setup, which is the most versatile of the bunch. Plus, if you have to sell it later on, you can always spin the distress job as a "custom finish" since it was done at a real shop. You might find some people who don't like that, but there are plenty of people out there that will see that as a plus.
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:39 AM   #17
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For me, I'd go with the Les Paul. I've got a US made LP & I absolutely love it.

As a rule, you should never choose a Mexican made Fender over a US made one. I've owned an MIA Fender Strat in the past & thought it was 'meh' - to me it was average at everything, great at nothing....but then I'm just not a Strat guy.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:23 AM   #19
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i've never tried the two lace singlecoils side by side as a humbucker, how does that sound?

i'd probably go for the LP if it played well.
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That was my biggest concern as well. Did he destroy the resale value of that guitar? Is $600 too much?


yep that's the worry

as 57Goldtop said, the fact a shop did it is better than the guy doing it himself, but (a) is he telling the truth? and (b) it's not like having a shop do it guarantees they won't muck it up, either
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