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Old 01-27-2013, 08:58 PM   #1
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I need the neck angle for a PRS guitar

So I'm building this PRS style guitar kit for a friend of mine and the neck angle isn't right and its giving me really high action. It's set up like a strat where its basically parallel with the body. Now I've found places online that tell me the angle of the neck, but the measurements I need for the tools I have would be gotten by putting a yard stick down the scale length resting level on the frets and measuring the height of the bottom edge of the yard stick from the end of the fretboard in front of the neck pickup and the height of the ruler from the body just before the bridge. If someone with an actual PRS could give me those measurements, that would really help me out!

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Old 01-28-2013, 12:13 AM   #2
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What bridge is on the guitar? Neck angle is determined by bridge height, so it's important to know what bridge type it is.

If it's a tune-o-matic, 3-4 degrees is adequate.

http://www.tundraman.com/Guitars/NeckAngle/index.php

Use that if it's something other than a tune-o-matic.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:21 AM   #3
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If it's giving you high action, then increase the angle. Add a shim under the bridge end of the neck heel.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:31 AM   #4
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I need to sand the heel at an angle, it's a set neck. It has a strat style tremolo a lot like actual PRS's so I want the ACTUAL PRS measurements. I don't have a protractor or anything like that so a degree measurement does nothing for me.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:27 AM   #5
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nobody can just tell you what angle you need man. Like said, it all depends on the bridge, fret height and fretboard thickness. Still too high, add another degree into the neck.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:48 AM   #6
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I'm not concerned with fret height or fretboard thickness. Like I said, I just want someone to take a yard stick, lay it down the neck on the frets and give me the height off the body at the end of the fretboard and right in front of the bridge. It would take someone who has a PRS with a trem about a minute with a yard stick and a ruler. Let me worry about everything else. I already said it has a PRS style tremolo, and any difference in fret height or anything can be adjusted for with the action. I've built dozens of guitars and I have no issue just taking the wood down until it works. But I want to know what a real PRS has so I have an idea of where it's supposed to be by design.
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I'm not concerned with fret height or fretboard thickness. Like I said, I just want someone to take a yard stick, lay it down the neck on the frets and give me the height off the body at the end of the fretboard and right in front of the bridge. It would take someone who has a PRS with a trem about a minute with a yard stick and a ruler. Let me worry about everything else. I already said it has a PRS style tremolo, and any difference in fret height or anything can be adjusted for with the action. I've built dozens of guitars and I have no issue just taking the wood down until it works. But I want to know what a real PRS has so I have an idea of where it's supposed to be by design.


But fret height and fretboard thickness do matter. The reason why you need neck angle is due to your bridge being significantly taller than your neck. However, if your neck is shorter in height than a real PRS (deeper pocket, thinner neck heel or thinner fret board), the neck angle will need to be different than a real PRS.


I don't really understand why you can't just determine your own neck angle. This is something permanent, do it right the first time. Go to that neck angle calculator link. You don't need a protractor to determine neck angle, all you need is a few straight edges and a ruler. Simple geometry to calculate angles.

This is not a real PRS guitar, who knows how closely it really is matched to one. Do your own measurements, 3-4 degrees is very typical for a set neck'd guitar. Start there.

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Old 01-28-2013, 09:49 AM   #8
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I need to sand the heel at an angle, it's a set neck. It has a strat style tremolo a lot like actual PRS's so I want the ACTUAL PRS measurements. I don't have a protractor or anything like that so a degree measurement does nothing for me.

PRS do their neck angles in degrees
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I've seen PRS meaure out their neck angles, they do it just the way I'm asking for it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:13 PM   #10
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neck pocket angle 4.5*
body is 4.5* at the neck

Apparently that's what it is on a McCarty, don't quote me, found it on the MLP Forums.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:15 PM   #11
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Yeah, that's what I read too. But most McCarty's have stop tail pieces, right? I could probably figure out the rest of the dimensions mathematically if I knew the height of the fretboard from the body, but it would still have to be a guitar with a tremolo.
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I'm sure that there's already a solution on this thread, you're just not listening. There's no point in trying to measure an angle in an actual PRS if the angle on the guitar you're doing is not a real PRS, you know. You should be a little more grateful that someone even cares to give you some advice. Just saying.

Even then, the angle on most of those set necks are between 4 and 5 at most, though, I've heard of certain Les Pauls that have as much as 8.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:23 PM   #13
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I'm sure that there's already a solution on this thread, you're just not listening. There's no point in trying to measure an angle in an actual PRS if the angle on the guitar you're doing is not a real PRS, you know. You should be a little more grateful that someone even cares to give you some advice. Just saying.

Even then, the angle on most of those set necks are between 4 and 5 at most, though, I've heard of certain Les Pauls that have as much as 8.

My problem is that people keep trying to solve my problems for me instead of just helping me by giving me the information I need. It doesn't matter if you think I'm doing it wrong, don't worry about it. The answer I need could've been given to me in like 30 seconds, its real simple. I'm sure you guys are all trying to help, but sometimes helping isn't helping, you know? I just wanted 2 numbers, that's all. This isn't the first guitar I've ever built...
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Posting this on the official PRS forum may have gotten you better results.
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Well since you are arguing about the best way to do this, then getting mad that nobody is answering your question...
Ever occur to you that maybe nobody that has looked at this thread has a prs with a trem? just maybe?
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Well since you are arguing about the best way to do this, then getting mad that nobody is answering your question...
Ever occur to you that maybe nobody that has looked at this thread has a prs with a trem? just maybe?

I have a CE22, but it is a bolt thru neck, so not really a help
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Well since you are arguing about the best way to do this, then getting mad that nobody is answering your question...
Ever occur to you that maybe nobody that has looked at this thread has a prs with a trem? just maybe?

If no one has a PRS with a trem, then there shouldn't be any responses at all.

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I have a CE22, but it is a bolt thru neck, so not really a help

I don't see a good reason why the bolt on would make a huge difference. If you could give me the measurements, I could at least take that with a grain of salt.
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It will be completely different with a bolt on. it sits higher than a set neck does in the pocket.

And wow dude... You dont want responses except for your EXACT request? Good luck in the world.
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I need to sand the heel at an angle, it's a set neck. It has a strat style tremolo a lot like actual PRS's so I want the ACTUAL PRS measurements. I don't have a protractor or anything like that so a degree measurement does nothing for me.


You can literally print out a protractor if you wanted to. Or go and spend $2.00 on one. That'd make things a lot easier.
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i dont own a prs, but i measured it on a poster. Its 1mm
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