11-02-2012, 04:43 PM
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If men had to deal with pregnancy, would you be wondering the same thing?
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11-02-2012, 04:44 PM
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>Give me an argument
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11-02-2012, 04:50 PM
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Because a woman is allowed to do what she likes with her body when it doesn't affect another human being and a fetus isn't a human. It's the talking point because it's so blatantly obvious. |
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11-02-2012, 04:55 PM
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11-02-2012, 05:04 PM
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Well first off, tough because it is her body and the fetus really doesn't have personhood all things considered. Just because you don't want me to tell you so doesn't mean it's not true haha. Quote:
My main reason for being pro-choice is bodily autonomy. (And my position is strengthened by the fact that fetuses aren't exactly persons.) Anyway, an easy way to understand my position is the hypothetical people-seeds analogy: People-seeds drift about in the air like pollen, and if you open your windows, one may drift in and take root in your carpets or upholstery. You don’t want children, so you fix up your windows with fine mesh screens, the very best you can buy. As can happen, however, and on very, very rare occasions does happen, one of the screens is defective; and a seed drifts in and takes root. Just because the seed managed to plant itself in your house doesn't mean it has the right to use your house to grow into a real person and rely upon you for years after it grows into a real person. Is it sad that the seed will never grow into a real person? Sure, of course it is. But the bigger tragedy is restricting people from, when possible, preventing the growth of unwanted things in their Last edited by due 07 : 11-02-2012 at 05:05 PM. |
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11-02-2012, 05:17 PM
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11-02-2012, 06:48 PM
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Come on Sam, don't pull an Ethan Hanus on us
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11-02-2012, 08:48 PM
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 I do care about that stuff but I really don't come to the Pit to discuss it. Though i guess it's a bit of a dick move to post shit in the thread if I have nothing to add to the discussion. Honestly, I'll try not to do that anymore. Seriously.  |
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11-02-2012, 09:02 PM
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well I consider myself pro life[let the flaming begin
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11-02-2012, 09:03 PM
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But it's the woman's fault she got raped/pregnant?
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11-02-2012, 09:05 PM
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shut teh fuk ahp u fagits
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I didn't say that... the woman is definitely a victim
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11-02-2012, 09:07 PM
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Why should she have to have a baby if it's not her fault?
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11-02-2012, 09:07 PM
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And you don't find it morally reprehensible to make women give birth to children that are the result of a violent, forceful, invading crime against their body? |
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11-02-2012, 09:13 PM
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shut teh fuk ahp u fagits
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well, i could spin that question around and say why should the fetus be aborted if it wasn't his/her fault. Like i said before it all depends when you consider life begins
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11-02-2012, 09:17 PM
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So what you're saying is that a woman should be forced to carry a baby to term and raise it for her entire life because she has been raped?
How is that not punishing the victim?
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11-02-2012, 09:21 PM
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morals is another issue entirely, some people think they are fixed and some think they are relative. the abortion issue revolves primarily on the right to weather the fetus get's to live or not. It's definitely a tough and awful situation to be in.
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11-02-2012, 09:27 PM
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It's just a clump of cells. It doesn't have any more "rights" than the jizz you murderously shoot into a Kleenex on a regular basis.
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11-02-2012, 09:27 PM
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shut teh fuk ahp u fagits
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look at it this way, why are some people forced to work very hard they're entire lives just because they're parents were poor or the country they were born in while others live easy and lavish lives? is it they're fault? life is unfair, it's an unfortunate reality. financial support and adoption are also options.
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11-02-2012, 09:31 PM
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shut teh fuk ahp u fagits
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sperm and eggs are released naturally and have the same genetic code as the individual releasing them, a foetus however is unique because it's a result of the fertilization of 2 sex cells and therefore has it's own genetic code. that's the key difference
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