terribleguitar

And why do you think Arby has more experience than TS? Only because he has an opinion you support?

H4T3BR33D3R

No actually. It's because ive been here a long time and I've seen both of them post. You know, based on my experiences?


You don't even know what opinion I support. But go ahead. Assume away. I was mearly pointing out that you're being counter productive by trying to stop other people from voicing what they know.


But whatever. Think what you like. Unlike you, I'm not going to stop you.

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Only at times, though.

terribleguitar

Okay

tubetime86

Maybe because within the last year the TS has made a thread asking why he can't replace his tubes with lightbulbs to save money and Arby hasn't? That's a pretty good reason in my mind.

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terribleguitar

Oh
Yeah...
But still, I'll stay with my point of view

Arby911

You need to ease up my friend, and note that I did provide Ian with useful information as per his request is addition to tendering my considered opinion.

So how about that challenge? Up for it?

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tubetime86

The point is exactly that; this is an internet forum, the entire purpose is for different points of view to be expressed. If the TS already knew everything there is to know about the topic then why'd he bother to make a thread? He doesn't have to follow anyone's advice, or even agree with it, but if he wants to make a thread then he has to accept that people will make recommendations that he doesn't agree with.

I don't mean to put him down either. He is one of the guys around here that joined fairly recently and knew very little when he joined. He's done a lot of reading, and experimenting and has learned a lot since the days when he made a ton of stupid threads like the lightbulb one... But that doesn't mean he suddenly knows all there is to know. Arby (and many others here) just simply has more experience with the equipment and a greater understanding of the technical aspects at play. That's just a fact. If he chooses to ignore those wiser influences then that's his choice, but you can't tell them what to recommend... That defeats the purpose of a recommendation.

When someone says 'I have a Marshall MG and want a new overdrive pedal' what do we say? We say 'you need a new amp.' Do they like hearing that? Of course not. Is it the correct answer? Yes. I'm not saying that's what this situation boils down to, but it just might be.

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terribleguitar

That's some insane exaggeration

H4T3BR33D3R

I don't know how often you're on here but that situation happens a lot.

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Only at times, though.

terribleguitar

No, I mean the "DSP vs Tube Amp" subject is debatable, while "what OD pedal for a Marshall MG" is not!

H4T3BR33D3R

Explain why that's not debatable? I'm pretty sure everything in music is debatable considering music/tone/whatever is 100 percent subjective.

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Only at times, though.

terribleguitar

Marshall MG's badness is NOT subjective.

tubetime86

Try telling the rest of the civilized world that.

There will come a day (hypothetically) that DSPs can do everything a tube amp can do... When that day comes (and for all I know it's here; I haven't played an AxeFX or Kemper) people like the TS that say 'no DSP will ever feel like a tube amp' will be just as wrong as the guy that thinks an OD will turn his MG into a gig-worthy amp...

If you know the answers don't make a thread, if you don't know the answers then make a thread and read through all the answers to find the best solution for you. It's really that simple. Don't like an answer? Fine, on to the next one.

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H4T3BR33D3R

In your opinion. If I can get one cheap and used they sound great for a practice amp.







See where I'm going with this?

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Only at times, though.

tubetime86

Static X gigs them.

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terribleguitar

Is that some kind of a joke?!

H4T3BR33D3R

Are you really that close minded?

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Only at times, though.

Arby911

Zakk Wylde might (be paid to) disagree with you...






Also...

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...42&postcount=69

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tubetime86

Zakk Wylde endorses them but doesn't actually use them... Wayne Static seriously gigs those amps... So what were you saying about your opinion not being subjective?

How many records have you sold? Sold out gigs have you played? My guess is the answer to both is 'fewer than Wayne Static' so from that standpoint it'd be easy for me to say 'Wayne Static is right and you are wrong...'

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