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Old 11-17-2012, 03:42 PM   #1
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Is LGBTQ a bad title?

I had a brief discussion with my wife (who's going to be a social worker) about this yesterday because she's going to be interning at a drop-in shelter for homeless kids aged 13-22, a portion of which are LGBTQ kids from abusive (or otherwise intolerant) families.

Now of course, I support legal and social equality for all sexualities, which includes everything under the title of LGBTQ.

However, I just think it's a terrible title. Like, it's plain bad English and not very well thought out.

First of all, Lesbian is gender specific. Gay is not. Lesbian is already covered by Gay, so at the very least I think that it should be changed to GBTQ.

Also, I've seen other letters added on to the acronym to represent more specific groups that people identify with. I think it's a bad utilization of language (and acronyms) to continue adding letters to cover every specific sort of "non mainstream" sexual orientation.

I proposed "sexual minority" to my wife as a coverall term, but apparently any use of the term "minority" has fallen out of usage in the realm of social work and is no longer tolerated, which also seemed a bit silly to me. To use the lame, hackneyed, overused term, I think it's "too PC."

What does everyone else think about the acronym? Should we just keep increasing the length of the acronym? Or is it just a poorly constructed intermediary placeholder until we come up with a better term?
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:44 PM   #2
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:45 PM   #3
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It's more of a "cover all grounds" kind of thing, like, "oh but gays work with guys, why can't you say lesbians too? Why can't we be proud of being gender specific?" or whatever. That's why there are so many letters because it's a touchy subject. I agree with you, but not everyone else will.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:45 PM   #4
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Sexual deviants is the only phrase that should be used. If only it was used in the '90s when deviants were considered cool, we'd have far less homophobia.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:46 PM   #5
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:47 PM   #6
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I always think it is odd that trans is included LGB, because it isn't a sexual preference.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:48 PM   #7
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"just a poorly constructed intermediary placeholder until we come up with a better term" sounds about right to me.

i can't think of a better term, but i'll have it on my mind today.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:48 PM   #8
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I'm seeing LGBTQQIA more often now. I wonder how many letters they can add to it.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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I always think it is odd that trans is included LGB, because it isn't a sexual preference.


Right. It's basically supposed to include everyone except for heterosexual men and women who have their original sex organs and are happy with all of it.
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"just a poorly constructed intermediary placeholder until we come up with a better term" sounds about right to me.

i can't think of a better term, but i'll have it on my mind today.


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I always think it is odd that trans is included LGB, because it isn't a sexual preference.


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Old 11-17-2012, 03:50 PM   #12
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You mean black jesus...
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:51 PM   #13
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I always think it is odd that trans is included LGB, because it isn't a sexual preference.




its a sexual identity i suppose...

albeit a different use of the term 'sexual'.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:53 PM   #14
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Gotta give women something. Don't want them screaming about inequality to homosexual men. I think it's fine honestly. It's just an org letting people know they support all none heterosexual sex.
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It annoys me that people care about stuff like that.
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It annoys me that people care about stuff like that.


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when did they add the Q? i don't remember that one.
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Really? I have only ever heard of it as queer, like a catch-all for everything else.
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