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Old 11-08-2012, 09:13 AM   #1
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Affordable wah

Hi, I want a wah pedal, but am on a budget, lets say under 70.

This price includes some good amps from some leading brands like Jim Dunlop, Vox and Morley.

Here is what Andertons has in that price range, just so that you can see.

30-50

http://music.andertons.co.uk/search...&nodet=1#page-1

50-70

http://music.andertons.co.uk/search...&nodet=1#page-1

What what are the best ones?

I want a wah that is solid and well build, reliable and strong enough to handle stage use.

The sounds I like wah wise are the classic rock and blues orientated ones. Hendrix, Clapton, Page, Bonamassa, Slash.

Voodoo Child.

I'v looked mainly at the Vox V845.

A second question I'd like to ask is:

How good and worth the money are the affordable end multi effects units like the Vox Tonelab? For gigging and recording.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:32 AM   #2
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With multi's it really is a matter of preference, and it depends on what you would be willing to spend on individual pedals. e.g. if you needed a phaser, chorus, wah, compressor, overdrive/distortion, fuzz, DI box, noise gate, and volume pedal and needed to get all that under $400 new I would say multi all the way, simply because you would likely be getting some pretty crappy pedals if you were to try get those individually.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:50 PM   #3
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i'd go for the dunlop. i just prefer them over vox wah's but thats purely preference. if you want complete versatility, save up a little more and get the 535q by dunlop. i have one and its pretty customizable to get the tone your after.

otherwise, the crybaby classic is the way to go
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:17 PM   #4
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Don't know European prices, but check out the Morley Tremonti wah, it's only about 100 bucks american, and is a very good pedal.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:27 PM   #5
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You're going to get a lot of different opinions here. Everybody has their preference when it comes to wah. I constiantly struggle to find a wah that I'm happy with.

My best advice to you, is to go to a local shop, and try everything that they have in your price range and buy the one you like best!

I will admit, I really like the vox wah. My only complaint, is that the few I have tried, have been super noisy! Thats the only reason why I don't own one.

Now, about the mulit effects unit... In my opinion, I wouldn't touch one with a 10' poll I owend a gnx3000, I'll admit it actually had one of the best sounding wahs that I've ever heard, but it completly ruined my amps tone! I find that the amp modelling just isnt the same as the real deal.

My advice would be to stay away from them, and stick with indivudal stompboxes. But hey, if its what you're into, by all means, go for it!

I hope that helps!
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:14 PM   #6
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Try an EHX Crying Tone Wah. They're indestructible and they sound great. Totally within your budget.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:37 PM   #7
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Try an EHX Crying Tone Wah. They're indestructible and they sound great. Totally within your budget.


This actully looks pretty interensting! No moving parts = no noise! I'm gonna have to try one of these out.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:47 PM   #8
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I watched Rob Chapman's review of the EHX and he found a lot of issues with it, and they sound like things that would irritate me.

I dont really have a local shop good for trying pedals. They just never seem to have the stock apart from the odd things here and there.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:12 PM   #9
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i'd go for the dunlop. i just prefer them over vox wah's but thats purely preference. if you want complete versatility, save up a little more and get the 535q by dunlop. i have one and its pretty customizable to get the tone your after.

otherwise, the crybaby classic is the way to go


This, both of these are great as the Classic is what the majority of the players you mentioned used or for the most part is the one a lot of signature wah's are based on before they are tweaked, very nice pedals and like all dunlop stuff almost bombproof, there was a thread about one that needed its first servicing after 12 years, earlier servicing of the pots and inductor is quite common, depending on usage.

I have personally owned a Dunlop Crybaby From Hell for the last two years, walked into my local music store they had an open box one on sale for $99 havent looked back since. Its based of the 535Q but tweaked for Dimebag and I swear hands down its the most versatile wah pedal ever, so much control over the tone and Q range its nuts.

As for multi-fx boards its hit or miss, the big dollar units are pretty darn good these days, but as a previous poster mentioned the destroy the natural tube amp tone, but if your running direct into a PA, recording interface or SS amp they are pretty damn good. I tried out the digital phase a couple years back with a Fender Mustang 3 and a Line 6 POD XT Floor, I can't remember the exact name but it was either the flagship or second best floorboard Line 6 was offering, basically what the HD500 is now. It wasn't utterly horrible, then again it wasn't exactly the same as having a JCM800 full stack cranked in my house either, so there is pro's and con's.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:35 PM   #10
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Thanks for the tips every one.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:56 PM   #11
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i use a Morley classic wah for my hendrix stuff. works well .
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:59 PM   #12
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try looking for ibanez one's they're not famous and I haven't tried one but If you're going cheap there's a weeping demon junior one for cheap, chris broderick of megadeth uses the normal weeping demon and kirk hammett uses his signature wah from dunlop but I repeat I haven't tried any of those so don't base an opinion on that I'm just saying
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:04 PM   #13
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buy a used crybaby. that way when you want to get something better you can sell it for the price you bought it for.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:29 PM   #14
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I bought my Morley PWA off ebay for $20. Granted it was faulty but 5 mins resoldering the joints on the board and it was as good as new.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:36 AM   #15
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I watched Rob Chapman's review of the EHX and he found a lot of issues with it, and they sound like things that would irritate me.

I dont really have a local shop good for trying pedals. They just never seem to have the stock apart from the odd things here and there.


i'd think that if you wanted something along the lines of this you'd be better off dropping the cash for the zvex proximity wah. i just dont really trust something like the new EHX one. great concept, but i think its just too new at this point. the xvex one is the same kind of concept as a theramin which has been around forever.

but again, crybaby classic is one of those things that u really can't go wrong with
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:30 AM   #16
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I have both the Jim Dunlop JH-1 Hendrix wah and the Ibanez WH-10 reissue... both are awesome but I'd go for either a Vox or original Crybaby over the Hendrix wah, and above all I love the shit out of my WH-10... best sounding wah I've come across for what I use it for. I find it to be very smooth transition from heel to toe, unlike every other Dunlop wah I've used where the tone seems to 'stick' at various points across the wah range. WH-10 can be used for just about any style too, it has a depth control as well and is built to last longer than the originals which were made of plastic. Having said that, the circuitboard on mine cracked recently after about 2 years of use due to the location of the circuitboard in the pedal, but a $40 re-soldering service later and it's better than it was new!

EDIT: saw a recommendation of Ibanez weeping demon... those are totally different to the retro WH-10's incase anyone is wondering. I've heard a number of people using weeping demons and to me they sound more like weeping cats... way too fake and metal sounding

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Old 11-09-2012, 07:59 AM   #17
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I checked out a demo of the Ibanez WH-10 0n youtube and it sounds great.
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