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Old 11-11-2012, 01:07 AM   #21
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I think it's more about what you are accustomed to. People who have grown up in pop culture hearing three minute poptechno songs probably will be bored by a forty minute classical piece, not because they're not smart enough, but because it's so different.

I have found that the progressive-metal community, more than others in my experience, has the attitude (to an extreme degree) that they are more intelligent because their music is more complex.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:10 AM   #22
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maybe? also, intelligence?
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:10 AM   #23
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I think it's more about what you are accustomed to. People who have grown up in pop culture hearing three minute poptechno songs probably will be bored by a forty minute classical piece, not because they're not smart enough, but because it's so different.

I have found that the progressive-metal community, more than others in my experience, has the attitude (to an extreme degree) that their music is more intelligent because it's more complex.

Hmm, interesting. I agree with this, at the same time, though. It's a conditioning thing, too. I actually detest progressive metal/rock and all those "tech" bands that need moar range with their 8 string guitars. So I think there's more that goes into it than what I proposed, with things like what you said.
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^ Conditioning is the perfect word
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:16 AM   #25
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There was a study that showed, on average, people who listened to Beethoven had a higher IQ than those who listened to Lil Wayne. So yes.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:18 AM   #26
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There was a study that showed, on average, people who listened to Beethoven had a higher IQ than those who listened to Lil Wayne. So yes.

Actually a bit interesting in reading more about this. Google it or do you have a link/source?
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:20 AM   #27
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Actually a bit interesting in reading more about this. Google it or do you have a link/source?


Turns out it wasn't IQ, it was SAT scores.
It's really late and I'm tired so this is the best I could find
http://www.labnol.org/internet/musi...elligence/7489/
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Turns out it wasn't IQ, it was SAT scores.
It's really late and I'm tired so this is the best I could find
http://www.labnol.org/internet/musi...elligence/7489/

That's the weirdest chart I've ever soon, but it works.
Very interesting, thank you.
It says "classical" at one point but it isn't even that high on the chart, and Beethoven's nowhere to be seen. Lil Wayne is one of the lowest, though
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:31 AM   #29
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Turns out it wasn't IQ, it was SAT scores.
It's really late and I'm tired so this is the best I could find
http://www.labnol.org/internet/musi...elligence/7489/




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Old 11-11-2012, 01:31 AM   #30
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I think humanity has to first accurately define intelligence before we can start making all these correlations.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:34 AM   #31
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I consider myself highly intelligent and accept most forms of music and enjoy quite a few different genres.

I know people just as/more intelligent than me that refuse to listen to anything other than dubstep.

I don't know what to think about this.
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Turns out it wasn't IQ, it was SAT scores.
It's really late and I'm tired so this is the best I could find
http://www.labnol.org/internet/musi...elligence/7489/

Techno fans score highest followed by classic rock and country? I call bull on the whole thing.
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I consider myself highly intelligent and accept most forms of music and enjoy quite a few different genres.

I know people just as/more intelligent than me that refuse to listen to anything other than dubstep.

I don't know what to think about this.


It's probably more to do with openness to experience and introversion, imo. I think most extraverts appreciate music as a social lubricant of sorts, whereas introverts are more likely to appreciate the music in its own right.

Those who rank low on openness to experience probably won't like music that is alien to their socioeconomic group, and might appreciate music more as a part of their cultural identity.

It is true that intelligence is correlated with openness to experience, but I'm not sure to what extent.

I'm basing this entirely on intuition, no stats or studies so I might be talking utter shite.
Also, I'm not saying there's any wrong or right way to appreciate music.
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arnt people who study music generally more intelligent than those who don't?
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:44 AM   #38
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It's probably more to do with openness to experience and introversion, imo. I think most extraverts appreciate music as a social lubricant of sorts, whereas introverts are more likely to appreciate the music in its own right.

Those who rank low on openness to experience probably won't like music that is alien to their socioeconomic group, and might appreciate music more as a part of their cultural identity.

It is true that intelligence is correlated with openness to experience, but I'm not sure to what extent.

I'm basing this entirely on intuition, no stats or studies so I might be talking utter shite.
Also, I'm not saying there's any wrong or right way to appreciate music.

A wrong way to appreciate music would be to, say, listen to it to "fit in" with a certain group or crowd. Although, I suppose that's not truly appreciating, and just more being fake.
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From my experience 'intelligent' people (read: booksmart/high IQ whatever) tend to be more open minded about music. They'll listen to symphonies, metal or cheesy pop songs, they can appreciate it for what it is and that each genre has its own niche. Some less intelligent people I know seem more close minded about music and only really appreciate the genres/bands they know and enjoy.
Realistically though I think it'd be incredibly hard to find a correlation between intelligence and musical tastes, aside from a few anecdotes. How is intelligence to be measured? How are we linking it to musical tastes?
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arnt people who study music generally more intelligent than those who don't?

Nah if they were smart they'd be studying a real subject.
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