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Old 11-11-2012, 07:24 PM   #61
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Yeah, because those plot devices have never been used before, ever and where completely invented by Nolan.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:25 PM   #62
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Also, police uniform disguises.

Also also big pane glass skyscrapers in China.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:29 PM   #63
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I haven't seen the movie. Was Muse's Supremacy included in the film? >_>
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:29 PM   #64
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Nah, I think Ian Fleming would have approved of the modern interpretation (more so than some previous iterations).

art isn't about the artist.

the only art that's about the artist is a self portrait or an autobiography or the like.



As well as being an author and a journalist, Fleming was an upper class naval intelligence officer during the second world war, during which he oversaw spies infiltrating enemy territory to steal vital intelligence and technologies, planned top secret operations to deceive the Nazi high command and was involved in planning "Operation Golden Eye". He was in love with fast cars, just like Bond.
Fleming was a drinking, smoking man of the world.
Art can be about the artist.


btw, I saw a great documentary about this a while ago, didn't find out he was involved in it until recently. It's a fascinating story.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:33 PM   #65
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I just wasn't expecting it. I was lulled into a false sense of security by the fact that it doesn't come out here for 11 days. I expected this to be an anticipation thread then BAM spoiler in the face.


That's it, I'm never moving to Australia. I was cool with the fact that every animal in that country can kill you, but getting Skyfall on the 22nd? That happen with a lot of stuff?

I loved every minute of Skyfall. Easy in the top 3.

But one thing that annoyed me was that it pretty much killed off the theory that
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Hell, even the guy who directed Die Another Day believed this theory. Wait, that was the Bond movie with the invisible car, right? **** that guy.

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the only art that's about the artist is a self portrait or an autobiography or the like.

You can't entirely separate the artist from their work of art. It's impossible. Inspiration doesn't float out of nowhere, despite people supposedly coming up with new ideas in the shower. 'New' ideas all take inspiration from somewhere, mostly from the artist's experiences in life.

With that said, this can also apply to us - the reader/viewer/listener - who is also open to interpret said ideas from the experiences we've had.
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Yeah, because those plot devices have never been used before, ever and where completely invented by Nolan.

Never implied they were, just stating that there are some similarities between the films. Nothing more.
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As well as being an author and a journalist, Fleming was an upper class naval intelligence officer during the second world war, during which he oversaw spies infiltrating enemy territory to steal vital intelligence and technologies, planned top secret operations to deceive the Nazi high command and was involved in planning "Operation Golden Eye". He was in love with fast cars, just like Bond.
Fleming was a drinking, smoking man of the world.


Fleming was also a descendent of William the Conqueror
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Still, you have to admit that it does make sense
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No one actually liked all those semi sci-fi Bond movies, right?

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Still, you have to admit that it does make sense

Yeah, I think we've all pondered it, but it doesn't really matter to me. It could be true, it could be false, it is never confirmed (and now seemingly denied) within the canon - at some point you have to suspend your disbelief and just enjoy the character for what he is.

Unless you're one of the guys who wants JJ Abrams to introduce a genetically deforming Klingon virus in the next Star Trek film, that is.
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Yeah, I think we've all pondered it, but it doesn't really matter to me. It could be true, it could be false, it is never confirmed (and now seemingly denied) within the canon - at some point one has to suspend our disbelief and just enjoy the character for what he is.

Unless you're one of the guys who wants JJ Abrams to introduce a genetically deforming Klingon virus in the next Star Trek film, that is.


I have absolutely no idea what that last sentence means, but yes, it is a film and bloody entertaining films at that.

Btw Sean Connery was momentarily considered to play the Scottish groundskeeper at the end. Would've been cool but would've broken the immersion. If they were going to have him in the film they could've had him in the background playing poker or something
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I have absolutely no idea what that last sentence means, but yes, it is a film and bloody entertaining films at that.

It's one for the Star Trek geeks
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Btw Sean Connery was momentarily considered to play the Scottish groundskeeper at the end. Would've been cool but would've broken the immersion.
Yeah, I kept thinking how it would have been cool for him to play that role. Probably would've ruined it in some way, though (but would have been awesome nonetheless).
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:58 PM   #75
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I have absolutely no idea what that last sentence means, but yes, it is a film and bloody entertaining films at that.

Btw Sean Connery was momentarily considered to play the Scottish groundskeeper at the end. Would've been cool but would've broken the immersion. If they were going to have him in the film they could've had him in the background playing poker or something


I thought it actually was Sean Connery, having never seen him.
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No one actually liked all those semi sci-fi Bond movies, right?

Those were shit


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Seen it twice, absolutely loved it. Thought the visuals were gorgeous, especially the colours towards the end, and some of the establishing shots in the middle.

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Which ones?

I don't know. They've all mixed together in my head.

Just the ones with all the outrageous gadgets and unbelievable characters and stuff. idk

I like this more believable and gritty Bond
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I don't know. They've all mixed together in my head.

Just the ones with all the outrageous gadgets and unbelievable characters and stuff. idk

I like this more believable and gritty Bond
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