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Old 11-11-2012, 01:42 PM   #1
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Is Yngwie Malmsteen overrated and egocentric?

I'm asking you a simple question, in your opinion.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:51 PM   #3
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skill-wise, i wouldn't say he is overrated; he is quite good. however, no matter how good you are, an ego as big as his is still unacceptable.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:53 PM   #4
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Not really, he`s a good guitarist.
But it depends who you ask, some kids act like he`s a god, and that is overrating him.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:56 PM   #5
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he's not really overrated, he did bring a new side to shred. However he's trapped himself in this neoclassical genre and if you've heard 4 or 5 of his songs, you've heard them all. And to boot he's got a big ego. I wouldn't say he's overrated though.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:59 PM   #6
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Egocentric, i don't know, i think you'll need to know him personally to be able to judge about that.

Overrated.... people should really stop using that word. I'm a fan of Malmsteen, i like his music and i see virtuosity when he plays the guitar.

But for example, i don't like Slash. I don't like his music, and i can't hear what would make him so special.

But in the end they both have the ability to impress audience, and that audience gives them the "rating" they deserve.

But thats all just a matter of taste, i would just never call a guitarist overrated.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:59 PM   #7
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he is skilled.but his songs are always same...they are like polyphonic ringtones !! usually beginners overrate him.he is good but there are lots of shredders.

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Old 11-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #8
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he's not really overrated, he did bring a new side to shred. However he's trapped himself in this neoclassical genre and if you've heard 4 or 5 of his songs, you've heard them all. And to boot he's got a big ego. I wouldn't say he's overrated though.


I wouldn't say he's trapped himself, there's no doubt he loves what he does so I would very much call it a choice.

I've met someone who worked with him though... apparently he's a complete arsehole.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:01 PM   #9
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He's really good but I can't say I like his music. He could be way better if he'd slow down and show some soul, I know he can. As a person, if I didn't know who he was and I saw him driving his Ferrari I'd think he was a complete laughable dick.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:07 PM   #10
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He's really good but I can't say I like his music. He could be way better if he'd slow down and show some soul, I know he can.

I think he has soul, he does show more emotion than most shredders in his playing. but yeah, I agree with the first bit.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:08 PM   #11
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I am primarily a blues guitarist, and he's not one of my favorites, but I think he does have a lot of soul, at least live. He's not up there bending notes and doing blues solos, but he seems to really love what he does and he has a passion in his playing I respect. He seems insufferable to be around though.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #12
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Theres no soul to his playing. Shredders like guthrie govan are better, because theyre versatile and you can really feel the emotion in their music. Yngwie is just "how many notes can i fit in this bar" then "ill put a harmonized dual guitar solo here"
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Theres no soul to his playing.



I get so tired of seeing people post stupid statements like this.

How do you know if there is "soul" in his playing or not. Did you jump inside his body to see if he is putting his immortal spirit into the music or what?
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:28 PM   #14
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Because he doesnt play it in a way that is recognisable, it could be anyone playing it, where as with other artists, you tell its them playing. Anyone can sound like yngwie and play his songs in that way, but looking at artists like steve vai who has a pretty unique style of playing, not many people can make a guitar sound that way
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:34 PM   #15
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Most people seem completely ignorant to what he's all about, they hear one of his instrumental songs and think all he does is all out shred all the time. When in fact most of the time he plays conventional verse, chorus, verse songs with a vocalist.

I don't like to use the term overrated because I'm not arrogant enough to believe that because I don't like something no one else should. People are allowed to like what ever they want.


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Because he doesnt play it in a way that is recognisable, it could be anyone playing it, where as with other artists, you tell its them playing. Anyone can sound like yngwie and play his songs in that way, but looking at artists like steve vai who has a pretty unique style of playing, not many people can make a guitar sound that way


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Old 11-11-2012, 04:37 PM   #16
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Anyone can sound like yngwie and play his songs in that way



That statement is even more ******ed than your other one about soul.

But since anyone can do it, lets see you shred some Yngwie...........

Oh, wait, you probably can't......



Much like your self, I prefer Govan over Malmsteen. I don't even listen to Malmsteen much at all. Not my thing.

But I don't think for one second that Yngwie puts any less heart and soul into his music than Govan.

Their styles are completely different.

You can put your all into the music weather its fast or slow. BPM has nothing to do with soul.

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Old 11-11-2012, 05:05 PM   #17
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I should rephrase that to could, but my point still stands
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:32 PM   #18
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I should rephrase that to could, but my point still stands


No actually, it really doesn't. You're arguing something entirely subjective as if it was an objective, measurable thing. Musical connection or 'soul' as you put it, is entirely in the ear of the listener. It may surprise you to know that Guthrie Govan has a lot of respect for Malmsteen because he thinks Malmsteen plays with more authenticity than most of the other people who have followed in his footsteps.

I would also suggest that if you think anyone can play like Malmsteen you take a few minutes to look around for someone who can, I for one cannot think of a single person who does what Yngwie does in the same way.

Also his vibrato and tone are amazing.

Now that I've said my piece... don't get in to this any more. There's nothing to be had down this road but flame wars and other such bullshit. Everyone please leave it alone.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:39 PM   #19
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Theres no soul to his playing. Shredders like guthrie govan are better, because theyre versatile and you can really feel the emotion in their music. Yngwie is just "how many notes can i fit in this bar" then "ill put a harmonized dual guitar solo here"



This is a really poor example and a bad defense to stand behind because the "no soul in their playing" routine can be applied to anyone.

I'm not a particular fan of Yngwie, but to be blunt, just because a song doesn't evoke certain feelings in you has nothing to do with the artist; it has to do with you. For example, I listen to a lot of 'shredders' like Steve Vai, Paul Gilbert, Shawn Lane, getting more into Guthrie Govan, Jason Becker, and some Satch. They have some beautifully written songs; they also have a lot of songs that sound like a cacophony. But some of the songs I like by any of those players sound like a mess to other people I know who listen to them, and that flips the other way around to me as well. It depends on the receiving ear.

Also, to say that "anyone can sound like Malmsteen, but only Vai sounds like Vai" is also a rather stupid remark to make, because it's simply not true. I sure as hell can't sound like Malmsteen. How about you? Care to back that up with a personal example of you playing any of his material exactly the way he does? Because I can guarantee it isn't going to sound like him.

Edit: ^Damnit Zaph, you beat me to it while I was typing
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I am primarily a blues guitarist, and he's not one of my favorites, but I think he does have a lot of soul, at least live. He's not up there bending notes and doing blues solos, but he seems to really love what he does and he has a passion in his playing I respect. He seems insufferable to be around though.


I utterly dislike Malmsteen's music but c'mon his string bending and vibrato skills are terrific.
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