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Old 11-13-2012, 06:43 PM   #1
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Need for analog delay

I've been wanting to get a delay pedal for my pedalboard, and want an analog one, not only for the warmer sound on the repeats, but more importantly for the sounds that can be created by changing the repeat time as they are going on. I don't know the name for this, but can be heard in Yngwie Malmsteen's Trilogy Suite Op. 5.

I like the look of the MXR Carbon Copy, as I've seen it done with this pedal, but was looking for other suggestions. Looked into TC Electronic too, but not sure if their Flashback is capable of what I'm after. Stereo capabilities are not a need as mono is fine for my setup, though it wouldn't do any harm, and 9V DC power is definitely preferred.

Cheers for any help with suggestions and the sorts
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:12 PM   #2
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will it be in an effects loop? i have a tonerider which is pretty nice for 45, but it really seems to hate being in a loop (or at least my engl's loop). the mooer ana echo is meant to be quite nice, too, but to get the best price (~30) you have to order from china.

no real experience with those dearer ones but i'm guessing that's a judgement call.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:19 PM   #3
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Cool! Looking into these now. Yeah it will be in the effects loop, that's another essential I suppose, that it works great in there. I should've probably added that budget isn't a problem for me. I don't have a top budget to work on, but I'm not looking for a lot of special things in the delay, so I don't expect to be paying a heck of a lot (though I know the MXR is quite expensive haha)
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:15 PM   #4
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ah right, yeah probably avoid the tonerider one then. actually i seem to remember asking matt (who got one) how his mooer ana echo worked in the loop, but i forgot what he said. so maybe do a search on that, too
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:18 PM   #5
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I like the look of the MXR Carbon Copy, as I've seen it done with this pedal, but was looking for other suggestions.
Cheers for any help with suggestions and the sorts



So, you'd buy a pedal based on the way it looks? Is that what I'm hearing here?
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:25 PM   #6
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So, you'd buy a pedal based on the way it looks? Is that what I'm hearing here?

uhh, did you read the part after that? he said that he's seen what he wants done with this pedal. it's an expression.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:12 PM   #7
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the dd-7 is a digital delay, but it has an analog setting that sounds pretty warm. the delay definitely does the 'morphing' effect when you change the delay time as well. might be more than your budget can handle, but i can speak for that pedal.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:35 PM   #8
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uhh, did you read the part after that? he said that he's seen what he wants done with this pedal. it's an expression.


We interpret that slightly different on my planet.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:45 PM   #9
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So, you'd buy a pedal based on the way it looks? Is that what I'm hearing here?

I buy all my pedals based on looks!

TS, if you like the carbon copy, why not get the carbon copy? There's not much around its price point that does what it does well. Do you have a max budget at all?
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:06 PM   #10
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're trying to find a delay on which it is easy to change the delay time while playing, right? If so, look at anything with a jack for an expression pedal. I know the EHX memory boy is one of many pedals that lets you do this.
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We interpret that slightly different on my planet.

that sentence is horribly offensive in my culture and i demand a retraction.
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that sentence is horribly offensive in my culture and i demand a retraction.

haha, he said you're from a different planet altogether.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:07 AM   #14
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Since budget doesn't matter get the Delay Lama+ (must be the "plus" version) It has infinite repeats on tap and an expression pedal input to be able to change the delay timer while playing. It's kinda pricey (at 350 euros at Thomann)

True analog goodness. Sometimes I have it turned on with the delay level set almost to zero cause it adds warmth to my tone in whatever setting (amp-wise).

edit: its from Jam pedals.

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Old 11-14-2012, 10:52 AM   #15
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the dd-7 is a digital delay, but it has an analog setting that sounds pretty warm. the delay definitely does the 'morphing' effect when you change the delay time as well. might be more than your budget can handle, but i can speak for that pedal.

I wasn't aware the DD-7 could do that, I do already have Boss pedals and like them, but thought the DD-7 was purely digital and wouldn't be able to replicate the delay time "morphing" effect.

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Since budget doesn't matter get the Delay Lama+ (must be the "plus" version) It has infinite repeats on tap and an expression pedal input to be able to change the delay timer while playing. It's kinda pricey (at 350 euros at Thomann)

True analog goodness. Sometimes I have it turned on with the delay level set almost to zero cause it adds warmth to my tone in whatever setting (amp-wise).

edit: its from Jam pedals.

Cheers for the suggestion there, looks great! Though budget isn't a huge problem, I am looking to spend as little as possible to get what I'm after, but will keep that one in mind!
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:18 AM   #16
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carbon copy with repeats all the way down sounds really good too. that light is so ****ing bright though...
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:32 AM   #17
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I had a chance to choose between a Carbon Copy and a Lovepedal GEN5 Echo in an A/B test. Chose the latter. Very similar to MXR, but has a volume boost feature, and an adjustable knob for modualtion instead of a button.

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Old 11-14-2012, 12:12 PM   #18
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The CC has the adjustable knob for modulation inside. Now, another suggestion, if you have the extra cash get a Malekko Ekko, it's a hell of a nice analog delay.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:37 PM   #19
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Gonna check out the above two suggestions ^
Though has anyone got any more info on the DD-7's analog mode for the "morphing" effects or whatever that effect is called that I know true analog delays to be able to reproduce. I couldn't find any videos showing this, maybe because I don't know the proper term for it, but if anyone knows of any, that'd be great!
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I know there are lots of digital delays that can do analog sounds quite good! If you want a really bigger delay then the Digitech Timebender worths a look, it's amazing!
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