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Old 11-18-2012, 03:32 PM   #21
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^Thanks for all the suggestions. The DSL amps are interesting me the more I listen to clips of them. I might try to snag a used DSL401 online or look into getting the DSL15.


I've heard from multiple places that the DSL15s just flat out suck. Just throwing that out there.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:57 PM   #22
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I appreciate the input from everyone. Right now I'm kind of leaning towards getting a DSL401 or one of the better clean amps like a Hot Rod Deluxe. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but do you guys think I'd be happy with something like a Hot Rod and eventually getting a nice distortion pedal in the future such as the one of the new Bogner pedals or a Wampler, or would I be better off with a DSL401?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:17 PM   #23
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ask bassmastamitch. that's what he does, a wampler triple wreck and a HRD.

I have gone both routes in the past and prefer a high/mid gain combo to using pedals. less to schlep around I guess.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:37 PM   #24
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Cool, I'll try to talk to him then. I'm pretty much down to those two choices now, a clean amp with the Wampler or something like a DSL401.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:06 PM   #25
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I own an Orange Dark Terror through a 2x12 with v30s, but I'd recommend possibly getting a Tiny Terror combo. It does the vintage stuff superbly.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:17 PM   #26
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Oh wait! Look into the Bogner Alchemist. It may be the answer
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:29 PM   #27
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I own an Orange Dark Terror through a 2x12 with v30s, but I'd recommend possibly getting a Tiny Terror combo. It does the vintage stuff superbly.

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Oh wait! Look into the Bogner Alchemist. It may be the answer


I'll look into both of these too. I'm gonna have to take a trip down to the music shop near me and try a ton of amps out. I'm pretty sure they had an Alchemist on display last time I was there.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:49 PM   #28
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You might love it, might hate it. It's that kind of amp. I love them.

The TT combo is gonna suck for cleans esp over a drummer and it will struggle for stuff like Isolation (AB song). I found myself keeping the tone knob really high up as well to get a nice bark/trebly bite out of it as well. You should look into the Jim Root terror if you're going that route as it's far more controllable IMO and is based off the Rockerverb preamp circuit.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:30 PM   #29
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I kinda doubt I go the Orange route just because they're a little out of my price range. I might consider a Jim Root Terror or a Dark Terror if I already had a cab, but right now I'm mainly looking at combos. Plus I would like something with more headroom for cleans.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:52 PM   #30
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I'll answer your message here in case anyone else wants to dissect it.

A Triple Wreck-HRD would be pretty much perfect for what you want, as you are in very similar circumstances to mine as for volume needs, budget, and music styles (Mark Tremonti is my favorite guitarist too!)

Volume is the finicky beast. The amp can easily drown out a drumset, but also run whisper quiet, however not much in between. (This is the case with my HRD model, but this may be a fix with different pots in the HRD III.) Thing is, I've found the volume control on the Triple Wreck to be incredibly useful, so I can run the amp's volume at around 2, but adjust the volume on the pedal to 9 o clock for nighttime playing, around 11 o clock if I don't want to hear my strings acoustically, and then about 1 clock to match the bypassed signal. The volume on the T-Wreck isn't really a direct attenuation to my ears (lower volume=less push on the preamp of the amp, affecting the tone) but it is still a damn fine tone for that volume.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:13 PM   #31
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^Thanks for answering! It sounds like a pretty versatile setup. It looks to me like the Deluxe III added different kinds of pots, so maybe they tried to fix that problem in the newer models. I'll continue searching for a good deal and playing some of these amps in person, but I think I'm leaning towards getting the HRD with a Wampler sometime in the future.

Thanks again to everyone that replied. You've all been a big help.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:53 PM   #32
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and mitch, the HRDIII allegedly has a drive channel not born of devil spawn.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:58 PM   #33
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That's to look on the bright side. I still doubt it's usability, even though I haven't heard the III for myself.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:10 AM   #34
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Lol I'm sure I'd find uses for the HRD drive channel. It's nice to have a variety of tones to play with anyways.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:17 AM   #35
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oh no. no. ahahaha. no you won't, not if you get the old one. no sir.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:39 AM   #36
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Lol I'll probably try to grab the III if I get one.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:44 PM   #37
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Lol I'm sure I'd find uses for the HRD drive channel. It's nice to have a variety of tones to play with anyways.

I don't joke when I say it's completely unusable, minus an OK at best fuzz tone. You'd be buying a clean machine.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:47 PM   #38
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I don't joke when I say it's completely unusable, minus an OK at best fuzz tone. You'd be buying a clean machine.

I wouldn't say that. It's bad, but it's not like it's completely non-musical... It sounds OK, until you hear what a decent drive sound is supposed to sound like...

I think most people are happy with the OD when they buy the amp, it's just that over time they get sick of it and its shortcoming stand out more.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:51 PM   #39
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The HRD III is much better than the originals imo
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:03 PM   #40
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I really dig the HRDIII that is at my local GC. It isn't my flavor, but it definitely is a good clean amp. The drive is just super thin, I feel like it could possibly be made better with some minor mods, but whether it would be worth it is another argument.
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