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Old 11-29-2012, 06:57 AM   #1
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Th30 to a Mesa 5.50

Hi guys i'm still after changing my TH30 head and cab for something smaller and easier to move about. I've been looking at the Mesa 5.50, i know these amps are well rated but can they match the crunch of my TH30 and more? thanks Paul.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:44 AM   #2
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I played a 5:50 (head cab version) and it just sounded cold to me. I tried every possible knob combination and couldn't get a sound I really liked. It was very frustrating, it was good sounding, but I always felt like I wanted more, it was always "Yes, I almost like this, it's just lacking some punch, some clarity, some warmth..."
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:52 AM   #3
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What will your expected applications be like?
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:30 AM   #4
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Thanks guys the amp will mainly used for home/band practice and the tones i'm after incl zz top G & R rhcp etc.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:36 PM   #5
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I'm with Darkflame. I've tried many Mesas, and each one had things I liked about it and applications I could see it in, but the 5:50 and 5:25 were both quite meh. Easily my least favorite Mesa. There just wasn't anything about it that I really liked. The other guitarist of my band was considering one for a while, but he ended up getting a Rectoverb because he just didn't like the 5:50, and it was all he talked about before he tried it.

If it were me, I would keep the TH30 over the 5:50. If I were going Mesa and wanted nice, classic crunch and outstanding cleans, I would get a Lonestar. The 5:50 has a little more gain and a tighter bottom end, but I just wasn't impressed by it. It just sounds like Mesa tried to make a cheap amp that can do a little of everything but a lot of nothing.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:15 PM   #6
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I'm with Darkflame. I've tried many Mesas, and each one had things I liked about it and applications I could see it in, but the 5:50 and 5:25 were both quite meh. Easily my least favorite Mesa. There just wasn't anything about it that I really liked. The other guitarist of my band was considering one for a while, but he ended up getting a Rectoverb because he just didn't like the 5:50, and it was all he talked about before he tried it.

If it were me, I would keep the TH30 over the 5:50. If I were going Mesa and wanted nice, classic crunch and outstanding cleans, I would get a Lonestar. The 5:50 has a little more gain and a tighter bottom end, but I just wasn't impressed by it. It just sounds like Mesa tried to make a cheap amp that can do a little of everything but a lot of nothing.

Thanks very much that's a great answer.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:34 PM   #7
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Please give more details about what you want exactly though, such as a budget, and more accurate informations... Your last thread ended up with people from all around the world screaming in pain and telling you to keep the TH30 (and I was one of them). What do you want to change about it, besides the fact you feel like a head and a 2x12 are too big?
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:53 PM   #8
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Stick with the TH30, the Express series is the worst sounding Mesa I've used


If your 2x12 is too big to move, just buy a nice 1x12 (Bogner Cube, Mesa Thiele, Orange 1x12, Emperor 1x12, etc.).
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Please give more details about what you want exactly though, such as a budget, and more accurate informations... Your last thread ended up with people from all around the world screaming in pain and telling you to keep the TH30 (and I was one of them). What do you want to change about it, besides the fact you feel like a head and a 2x12 are too big?

You hit the nail on the head about about the head and cab being to big. I'm after and amp with some on board effects that i can pick up and put in the car without all the wires and pedals. That's why i was looking at the Mesa thinking maybe that would do it all. I was outbid on a 5.50 this morning on ebay it went for 670 so i suppose my budget would be about 1k and i'm happy to buy used.
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How about getting a cheaper modeler with built-in effects and keeping your amp as well? You could get something like a 60 watt tube vypyr and be able to travel with that, then you wouldn't have to get rid of your TH30
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:25 PM   #11
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What you need is a Peavey Vypyr Tube 60, your post screams that
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:26 PM   #12
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Thanks i will give it some thought.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:27 PM   #13
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you wouldn't necessarily need to sell your TH30 either.
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For ZZ-Top and GnR? What you need is a real Marshall. ie. NOT an MG or AVT/VS, something real like a JMP, JCM (not a TSL), etc.
Some form of tube Laney would do the deed too.
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You hit the nail on the head about about the head and cab being to big. I'm after and amp with some on board effects that i can pick up and put in the car without all the wires and pedals. That's why i was looking at the Mesa thinking maybe that would do it all. I was outbid on a 5.50 this morning on ebay it went for 670 so i suppose my budget would be about 1k and i'm happy to buy used.


Well going from the TH30 to the Express wouldn't solve any of that. You'd have one less thing to carry and only save yourself a single speaker cable. You'd still need your pedals the amps footswitch and everything else. Plus the 5:50 is not exactly what I'd call light.

If you want onboard effects you need to buy solid state. Either a combo amp, like something Line6 offers (and lets be honest, it's going to sound like crap) or some kind of rack unit like the Eleven Rack or the AxeFX or PodHD (although you'd need to run those through either an active monitor or a PA and a cab or passive monitor. Not cheap. Plus you'd need a footswitch to control the whole deal.

My advice... Buy a lighter cab and learn to play without pedals.
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