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View Poll Results: Should mentally disabled people have the right to vote?
Yes 14 42.42%
They should be judged on a case-by-case basis 18 54.55%
No 1 3.03%
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:36 PM   #1
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Voting rights for the disabled?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edit...0610-story.html



Basically, California makes mentally disabled people have to fill out their own registration forms to be able to vote. The ACLU and other organizations are calling it a test and therefore illegal.


It's an issue that I've never seen discussed, so I thought it'd be an interesting topic. How do you feel about it? Is the requirement a "test" similar to the old literacy tests? Should mentally disabled people have the right to vote? No, you are not original if you say "lol they already do lol lol". Not sure where I stand, but I leaning in opposition to the ACLU on this one. If the rights cannot be restricted based on awareness and mental faculty, what argument can be made to keep them from having guns? I find the idea of mentally ill people not being restricted from purchasing deadly weapons kinda terrifying.

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Old 06-10-2015, 09:37 PM   #2
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If you can't fill in the registration form, how are you going to vote? Surely there is some reading involved in voting?

I feel stupid for posting that.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:38 PM   #3
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They have the right. I don't really know how you could do it any different.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:42 PM   #4
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They already do, they're called Republicans lolol.

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Old 06-10-2015, 09:43 PM   #5
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They already do, they're called Republicans lolol.

**** you I'll make my joke if I want

I honestly thought you were a republican.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:46 PM   #6
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Erik used to be the hero of the proletariat.




But then he grew up
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:47 PM   #7
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I honestly thought you were a republican.

I've shifted to the right in recent years but not that far. I'm a capitalist with a social conscience.
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I've shifted to the right in recent years but not that far. I'm a capitalist with a social conscience.

Sounds 100% democrat to me. You don't have a socialist party in the USA anyway.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:53 PM   #9
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I understand the logic of it, but I can't say I agree with it. They have just as much right as any other citizen.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:57 PM   #10
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Is the requirement a "test" similar to the old literacy tests?


it could be, and for that reason i answered 'yes' in the poll. it's a complicated question, i think, and it's easier and safer (for all of us) to let mentally disabled people vote like anyone else does.
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:01 PM   #11
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I say if they're mentally disabled and still know enough about politics to want to vote then let them vote. People with serious mental disabilities aren't gonna know enough about politics to even want to vote, and if they do it's still their right to be able to vote.
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:01 PM   #12
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how many mentally disabled people are really going to be voting? how much of an effect could it actually have? just let them do it, it'll make em feel good.
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:03 PM   #13
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http://www.livescience.com/18706-pe...-democracy.html

Seems silly to make intelligence a requirement for participating in democracy.
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how many mentally disabled people are really going to be voting? how much of an effect could it actually have? just let them do it, it'll make em feel good.



It's an interesting argument, but if we take the "but how much will it really effect the outcome" could also be used by those in favor of having to present an ID when you vote. I mean, the number of people that can't vote because they don't have an ID is probably pretty small, so how much of an effect could it actually have?


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Old 06-10-2015, 10:06 PM   #15
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Voting isn't meaningful if the "voter" cannot understand what they're doing.
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Somebody in favor please address the gun point.
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:12 PM   #17
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It really doesn't matter tbh, we should all know the peoples votes don't matter in the first place.
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Somebody in favor please address the gun point.


gun ownership certainly isn't a right like voting is, even if the constitution claims so. so that's my answer, but idk if everyone else answering yes will agree with me
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Somebody in favor please address the gun point.


Policy should be proportional to the associated risks?

How are the two even remotely related?

Are you having a stroke?
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:16 PM   #20
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guns are controversial. Turns out mentally ill people are controversial also.

we live in a society of conflict and confusion
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