Go Back   UG Community @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com > Instruments > Electric Guitar
User Name  

Old 11-15-2012, 03:37 PM   #1
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Massachusetts
American Std Strat vs. Deluxe

I'm most likely going to be purchasing a 2012 American Standard Strat HSS. I've been looking into it for a bit and have come across the deluxe, costing between 4 and 6 hundred dollars more than the regular std depending on where I look.

My question is, if I am uninterested in the difference in pickups (I am most likely going to be changing them out anyway after a little bit), and the S1 switch really means nothing to me also, is there really anything else that stands out making the jump in price worth it? I have an open mind, so I'm willing to contemplate any opinions. Thanks!
CryogeniX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 05:22 PM   #2
Axe Murderer
Registered User
Axe Murderer's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2008
Deluxe should be a little bit better quality wood. It has locking tuners, a contoured heel joint, compound radius neck. It also comes with strap locks. S1 switching is actually a pretty good feature for some meaty tones. Why would you overlook the S1? Id say go with the standard if the main selling points of the Deluxe dont impress you. I have an ash Deluxe and its pretty awesome.
Axe Murderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 07:06 PM   #3
Registered User
bigblockelectra's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2007
Play both at the store. I purchased the standard. I play at least an hour or two every day and it stays in tune very well. I use the tremolo a lot and it still stays in tune. If the cosmetic and build features mean nothing to you as they didn't to me, don't waste the money on the deluxe, the electronics are not worth it, especially if you are going to drop a few hundred on new pickups.

If doing it over again, I would probably buy an HSS. I only use the bridge pickup for distorted sounds as the plain tone is just too twangy and country-western sounding. The middle and neck are excellent. I may purchase a new bridge pickup for more humbucker sounding distorted sounds.
bigblockelectra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 07:33 PM   #4
Axe Murderer
Registered User
Axe Murderer's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2008
The new standards have the 2point bridge system as does the Deluxe. The Standards should keep tune well. The locking tuners dont stabilize tuning IMO but make string changes easier. The drawto the Deluxe for me was the compound radius neck and the S1.
Axe Murderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 07:39 PM   #5
Chirp and Swirl
Dave_Mc's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Northern Ireland
generally speaking, the deluxes have several little touches and "improvements" which aren't really strictly necessary, but may make things a little easier on you if you can make use of them. Conversely, if you don't need or want them, you're paying extra money for nothing (unless they use better wood... i dunno if they do or not).
Originally Posted by Blew1
I've seen some great videos on YouTube e.g The Tone King


Originally Posted by Roc8995
Rob Chappers would tell you he couldn't tell a cat from a dog if it would get him more hits on youtube.
Dave_Mc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 08:01 PM   #6
"Experienced" not "Old"
KenG's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Alberta, Canada
The precusor to the Deluxe was the Strat Plus. I had a 93 and it also included a hipshot tremsetter which was a nice touch but I'm not sure if this is true of the deluxe.
The biggest difference between them IMO is the compound radius neck. If you like to bend notes and don't want high action then a higher fretboard radius on a Fender is a very good thing!Noiseless PU s on a Single Coil guitar are also a good thing.
On the HSS vs SSS I guess it depends. The Strat has a unique sound based on SC PUs and the volume balance between HB/SC PUs will not be the same if you switch between them for any given amp/effect setting.. Also one characteristic of the Strat (that I really miss sometimes for clean) is the in between positions Neck/Mid or Mid/Bridge combinations. This sound relies on 1) the Mid PU is phsed reversed and 2) the 2 PUs are close in amplitude getting a fairly good cancellation ting happening. You'd not get this sound on a HSS version.
Just my 2 cents, I owned the Plus for 10 years but now am a die hard LP guy so.....

That being said IF I were to consider a Strat, I would spend the extra and go for the Deluxe hands down (i'd also consider the Ash body)
Les Pauls Forever!
Gibson CS 50th Aniversary R0 V2
Gibson CS 2012 R8 Iced Tea
Gibson CS 2010 R7 Re-Isssue Gold Top
Peavey Bravo112 w/Eminence Cannibis Rex
VOX Valvetronix VT30

Last edited by KenG : 11-15-2012 at 08:05 PM.
KenG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:54 PM   #7
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Thank you guys. The S1 just won't be a matter for me, I like to keep it pretty simple when it comes to what pickup combinations I use. Not that it's a bad system, I just know that when all is said and done, I won't be utilizing it much - if at all.

I will definitely be trying them both when D-Day comes and it's time to make the buy, so I'll know how the radius difference feels then.

I'm pretty set on getting the HSS over the SSS, I've played and owned both so I know what i'm getting into there.

Thanks everyone, obviously it'll always be a matter of seeing what happens when I play them, just wanted to hear everyone's opinions first here.
CryogeniX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 04:55 PM   #8
Registered User
bigblockelectra's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2007
You might want to wait a few more weeks to see if Fender does the $100 rebate year end program again. I don't remember when it started last year, but I got my USA stratocaster for about 850 after the rebate.

Why does Fender offer so few color choices? Where are the shades of blue, orange, purple, green, yellow, etc.

2012 added that ugly muted green color.

Last edited by bigblockelectra : 11-16-2012 at 04:56 PM.
bigblockelectra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 06:29 PM   #9
The Thing Upstairs....
-Ed-'s Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2011
I had the same choice OP and went for the standard. I've a hot rails bridge and jb jr neck - very happy. I'll stick a hot rails in the middle the next time I have the strings off..
-Ed- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2012, 10:40 PM   #10
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Essex
Fender had a better supply of wood from the late 80's to themid 90's.
A nice USA Lonestar/Roadhouse/Big Apple would be a great guitar (and cheaper). I've played 2 friend's USA Lonestars, and owned a Roadhouse. All killer, light and resonant guitars.
Also might be worth looking at a second hand Suhr Pro series. All fantastic, but not sure how much they'd go for where you are.
Originally Posted by Skraeling86
That's a lot of booze. Frankly, I'm impressed. You're of a stronger timber than the average man, jimbob! Hail you.

Originally Posted by Bubban
Yes you should go to a doctor, fucking moron. We can't do anything about your hemorrhoid.

jimbob78 is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:42 AM.

Forum Archives / About / Terms of Use / Advertise / Contact / Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2014
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.