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Old 11-20-2012, 10:42 PM   #41
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I like a few of their tracks. I thought City of Evil was pretty good and I actually enjoyed some of the tracks from their self-titled, A Little Piece of Heaven mainly. I tend to enjoy their cheesy theatrical melody aspects more than their technical work

I can see the point about their fanbase though being pretty obnoxious since they're kind of an entry-level band (that doesn't mean the band is bad though, it just tends to attract those kinds of fans). I've always known they're not heavy.

Also, those arguments about whether A7X are "real metal" or not are stupid. Actually you could replace A7X with any other band that falls in that argument category and it would still apply.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:42 PM   #42
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I don't really like that band. The songs are to cheesy and so are the riffs. The leads on them are pretty good though. They look like a teen metalcore highschool band when compared to bands like Angra and Cynic(Took Metal to a new Level). I guess it's all about taste. I can't really stand their music. I hate their music but not the people in the band.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:42 PM   #43
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Sure they may not be as talented as musicians YOU listen to, but you cannot deny they are talented. I fail to see how the talent comment is a valid point.

It's a personal point. For me, personally, I just don't find them interesting, because their arrangements/riffs are Not as complex as the music I usually listen to. I'm not saying that it's an issue to anyone but me. If you find their arrangements/songwriting/riffs interesting or whatever, cool. I don't.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:44 PM   #44
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they're bad but we've all known this for years and now it's boring to discuss.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:47 PM   #45
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City of Evil was abysmal. However, I can find something about the rest of their albums to enjoy, usually
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:48 PM   #46
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Everyone hates them because everyone else hates them. It's stupid, they have some really great songs.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:49 PM   #47
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I don't hate them per say, they do get allot of unreasonable hate but I do hate alot of things about the band:

1. the stage names they have are cheesier than manowar's lyrics, I mean names like "zacky vengeance" or "synyster gates" are a ludicrous attempt to appear more Br00t@lz (which is a ******ed concept in itself)
2. the singer they have has a such a whiny and annoying voice
3. they really have clouded what people think a metal band is sort of like what the hair bands did back in the 80's with the generic crappy lyrics and effeminate looks

I wouldn't go out of my way to bitch about them and if you like their music more power to you. I'l admit their guitar work is pretty decent and I've heard some pretty cool riffs and licks off them but a decent burger in a crappy yeast infected patty won't do it for me
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:54 PM   #48
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I don't hate them per say, they do get allot of unreasonable hate but I do hate alot of things about the band:

1. the stage names they have are cheesier than manowar's lyrics, I mean names like "zacky vengeance" or "synyster gates" are a ludicrous attempt to appear more Br00t@lz (which is a ******ed concept in itself)
2. the singer they have has a such a whiny and annoying voice
3. they really have clouded what people think a metal band is sort of like what the hair bands did back in the 80's with the generic crappy lyrics and effeminate looks

I wouldn't go out of my way to bitch about them and if you like their music more power to you. I'l admit their guitar work is pretty decent and I've heard some pretty cool riffs and licks off them but a decent burger in a crappy yeast infected patty won't do it for me

The singer of Dashboard Confessional has a whiny voice, M Shadows does not. It's not the best but it's not whiny.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:56 PM   #49
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I love how it's just assumed that people hate them because "everybody else does." Is it not possible for people to not like something because they just don't like it?
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:56 PM   #50
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Shitty hot topic fans,

I was one of them and saw them live at 13.

No regrets, they are decent.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:57 PM   #51
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The singer of Dashboard Confessional has a whiny voice, M Shadows does not. It's not the best but it's not whiny.

Nasally. His style is definitely nasally. Like Lois Griffin.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:57 PM   #52
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I don't like the vocals sometimes. That's about it.

> Nasally. His style is definitely nasally. Like Lois Griffin.

That's why.

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Old 11-20-2012, 11:03 PM   #53
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Nasally. His style is definitely nasally. Like Lois Griffin.


ahhh that was the word I was looking for, I dunno whenever I hear a voice I find annoying I usually associate it with being whiny but nasally is exactly it
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:04 PM   #54
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It's a personal point. For me, personally, I just don't find them interesting, because their arrangements/riffs are Not as complex as the music I usually listen to. I'm not saying that it's an issue to anyone but me. If you find their arrangements/songwriting/riffs interesting or whatever, cool. I don't.


Well that's fine. To me, it came off as you saying that just because they don't have the same talent as the stuff you listen to, they aren't talented. But yeah, now that you explain it, it's a point. Just denying they have talent isn't. Just got the wrong message, is all.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:06 PM   #55
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Matt definitely has a nasally voice sometimes. And often, that's what makes me cringe when I go back and listen to them.

When he isn't singing really nasally though, I love the gritty/sandpaper like sound of his voice. Great tone, asides the nasally parts.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:09 PM   #56
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Well that's fine. To me, it came off as you saying that just because they don't have the same talent as the stuff you listen to, they aren't talented. But yeah, now that you explain it, it's a point. Just denying they have talent isn't. Just got the wrong message, is all.

Well, I didn't mean to say they don't have talent. I phrased that badly. Sorry.
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Well, I didn't mean to say they don't have talent. I phrased that badly. Sorry.


Nah it's cool, shit happens bro.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:13 PM   #58
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I do not like how the vocalist sounds, and I hate their stage names. But Brian is a good guitarist
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:15 PM   #59
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I love how it's just assumed that people hate them because "everybody else does." Is it not possible for people to not like something because they just don't like it?

That's the way I see it because everyone I've talked to that has told me they don't like them has not given 1 real reason. It's always something like "they look stupid" "they have ******ed names" Even if that's true that doesn't mean their music is shit.
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