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Old 11-23-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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Replacement pups for an RG

I have an Ibanez RG Prestige 1451 (hardtail) which I love, brilliant neck and it sounds pretty good.

I think the stock pups are starting to let it down a bit though, they get a bit muddy for high gain and for cleans and bluesier stuff I don't know... They just lack a certain something. The split coil tones lack warmth too, so it's hard to emulate strat-like tones.

I play a lot less metal now and more fusion, blues, classic rock and funkier stuff. So I had the idea of changing the neck pup for a single coil like Paul Gilbert does in this video:



So ideally I'd have an HSS setup, with a coil tap switch for the humbucker.

How hard will it be the change the neck pup for a single coil? And can I get a good HSS set for under 200?
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:58 PM   #2
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It wouldn't be hard to change it to a single coil, but you'd probably want to buy a new HSS pickguard.

As far as buying a set goes, I would never do that. I prefer to pick which pickups I want rather than using whatever comes in a set.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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Oh I didn't mean a pre-packaged set.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:17 PM   #4
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I don't know about the pricing in the UK, but here in the states I could easily put together an HSS set of duncans or dimarzios for $150. Just look around and see what's out there.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:46 PM   #5
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You could just get a humbucker from hell (its designed to sound like a single coil, PG used them a lot in the Mr Big days)

For bridge, can't go wrong with a Super Distortion, Tone Zone or Steve's Special. Those 3 can cover pretty much anything you can think of, especially the Steve's Special.

As for converting to HSS, you would need 3 new pickups AND an new HSS pickguard. You might be able to order a custom one from pickguard paradise but I can't be sure. That's probably gonna run you about $50 or so. I don't think Ibanez sells any replacements to the public, so it's custom or nothing.

It'd be cheaper and easier just to replace the bridge and neck pickups with new humbuckers and be done with it. New pickups are around $60-$70 each.
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Easiest way to put a single coil in a bucker slot, would be to use a single coil adapter ring, like this:

http://www.guitarfetish.com/thumbna...maxx=0&maxy=300
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Easiest way to put a single coil in a bucker slot, would be to use a single coil adapter ring


Or you could do what Paul has done to the RG in the video and just drill new holes for the screws that hold the pickup in place.

Here's another video with a better view at 19.45ish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQXG...h-vrec#t=19m45s
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I prefer Paul's way because it puts the pickup closer to the neck, which is ultra important on a 24 fret guitar. Will that involve drilling the body or just the pick guard?
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I prefer Paul's way because it puts the pickup closer to the neck, which is ultra important on a 24 fret guitar. Will that involve drilling the body or just the pick guard?


Just the pickguard assuming that there is enough space in the routing underneath.

If not, you wouldn't notice anyway so it's not that big of an issue.
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I prefer Paul's way because it puts the pickup closer to the neck, which is ultra important on a 24 fret guitar. Will that involve drilling the body or just the pick guard?

Um, that's actually not remotely important at all...
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Um, that's actually not remotely important at all...


I think he is referring to the "the neck position on a 22 fret guitar sounds better than on a 24 fret guitar because of the pickups's distance" thing. It's really personal preference. I've played guitars that sound equally good no matter what pickup was used regardless of where it was positioned on the body. I don't think it really makes that much of a difference unless you are specifically looking for that stereotypical Strat/Tele/LP sound. Honestly, I don't think most people can tell the difference anyways unless someone told them so.
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My goal is usually to get the neck pickup as far away from the bridge as possible. But if we are talking about catching harmonics, the 29th fret would be the ideal position for the neck pickup. I honestly don't know how all that stuff about the pickup being in a harmonic position works though, I've never noticed anything particularly special about a 22 fret guitar's neck pickup over a 24 fret.
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My goal is usually to get the neck pickup as far away from the bridge as possible. But if we are talking about catching harmonics, the 29th fret would be the ideal position for the neck pickup. I honestly don't know how all that stuff about the pickup being in a harmonic position works though, I've never noticed anything particularly special about a 22 fret guitar's neck pickup over a 24 fret.


From what I understand it is supposed to sound "warmer" due to the pickup being farther up on the body. There is about an inch and a half difference between where a pickup is on a 22 fret guitar (ala Les Pauls, Starts, Teles) and a 24 fret guitar (your "shred" guitars)...
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Well, I know all that. I'm talking about the harmonics of the position having an effect on the pickup. On a 22 fret guitar, the neck pickup sits at the [theoretical] 24th fret, which is a harmonic position. But I've never noticed any beautiful harmonics coming from the neck pickup on a 22 fret guitar, so I question the validity of that theory.
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