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Old 04-21-2013, 11:10 PM   #1
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[NGD] something you don't see everyday

It's been a couple of days, but I thought I should show this one to you guys.
What we have here is a Swing Deluxe strat.

I kinda want to introduce my new guitar, and at the same time show the quality you can get from an overseas production when done right.

Swing is a South Korean guitar brand that usually makes pretty high quality mid-range priced guitars (about 200-750 USD range) for the domestic market.
I believe a very few of their guitars made it to Europe at one point?
(if you search Youtube, there's a Guitar World review of their piezo model called Prism)

When I came here in 2010 and tried one of my cousin's lower end model, I was pretty blown away by the quality(the fret ends were sealed w/ rosewood so that they wouldn't pop out... on a 200 dollar guitar)

Now, I finally got my hand on their highest priced model, the Deluxe.





This is a discontinued model; the previous owner bought it new couple of months ago, and left it in the case ever since; never played.

Here are the specs:

•2-Piece American Alder body
•Canadian Hard Maple Neck
Indian Rosewood Fingerboard
•9.5" (241mm) Radius
•22 Frets
•2.4mm Medium Fret Size
•25.5" (648mm) Scale
•42mm, GraphTech NuBone Nut
•Chrome Hardware
Sperzel TrimLok Tuners
Wilkinson VG300 Bridge

Duncan SSL-1 Neck & Middle Pickups
Duncan TB-4 Bridge Pickup
OAK 5-Way Selector
•Master Volume
•Master Tone

As you can see, everything from wood materials to hardwares down to electronics are pretty impressive.

Finally, check out the finishing details:



Each fret end has been hand-filed to be as round as a ball.



The neck joint is slanted, and the lower cutaway has been sanded down for a round grip. This is exactly like my 2008 Suhr Classic.

Now this baby cost me a little less than 700 USD.
That's slightly more than the usual used price of the same model, because mine was pretty much brand new.
The normal used price of this one is about 550-600 USD.
For this level of an instrument, I think that's a steal
(granted, it doesn't show up in the used market that often, having been discontinued for some years and all)

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The only thing that I don't like too much about the guitar is that
the neck single coil has a bit too much higher-end than* I would have liked,
while the bridge humbucker doesn't open up as much under heavy gain.

These are actually my first Seymour Duncans, but I don't really find them to my taste.

The bite in the single coils isn't bad (I'm kinda starting to like the clarity), but I might change the humbucker to something like evh wolfgang or frankie pickup.


Well, that's my latest purchase.
It's been my go-to guitar ever since I got it.

I hope it has been kind of... imformative, as to the potential quality of guitars NOT made in USA or Japan.

Peace out, gentlemen.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:20 PM   #2
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HNGD! never heard of Swing but looks sweet also, "something you don't see everyday" strat copy lolz
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:26 PM   #3
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Nice score. Congrats!

I had a Swing Tele, set neck, same tuners, and it was very comfortable. The frets were very nicely-done indeed.

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Old 04-21-2013, 11:29 PM   #4
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also, "something you don't see everyday" strat copy lolz

that's what I thought too when I opened the thread and saw a strat in the first pic. I thought maybe he was joking.

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Old 04-21-2013, 11:33 PM   #5
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HNGD! never heard of Swing but looks sweet also, "something you don't see everyday" strat copy lolz


thanks!
and yeah... i probably should have said "a brand" you don't see everyday.

oh well, you guys are smart enough to know what i mean
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:35 PM   #6
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thanks!
and yeah... i probably should have said "a brand" you don't see everyday.

oh well, you guys are smart enough to know what i mean

we got you also, what don't you like about the TB-4? i find it to be a decent pup for most genres
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:47 PM   #7
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we got you also, what don't you like about the TB-4? i find it to be a decent pup for most genres


I feel that it doesn't have enough of that high-frequency openness that many of my other guitars have.

Namely the comparison was with these:

1) Ibanez Jem's Evolution PU (the bridge humbucker was bright and screaming, but I had to let this one go because the pickup balance between the humbuckers and the single coil was atrocious)

2) James Tyler Studio Elite's Supercharged Studebaker (this one is actually slanted like some of the 80's superstrats... so the comparison might not be too clear for this one)

3) Suhr Classic's SSH+

4) Peavey Wolfgang's bridge PU (this one's kinda unfair because wolfgang pickups are just pure macho to begin with)



Eventually I'm going to try switching out the TB-4 with one of these, or something similar.
On the plus side, I think it kicks major ass from clean to mid-high gain!
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:53 PM   #8
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:42 AM   #9
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Nice score! I've been looking at a Swing Exciter Gold, myself. Good to see a review of something by them.

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Old 04-22-2013, 01:10 AM   #10
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Nice dude, just goes to show you can't judge a guitar until you have played it yourself regardless of brand recognition.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:43 PM   #11
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I personally wouldn't pay $700 for a used Korean guitar (at that price there's USA built stuff like Carvin etc), but I know about well built overseas axes. One of my main guitars is Chinese, I paid $140 for it and it's mindblowing. Enjoy it!
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:04 PM   #12
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I personally wouldn't pay $700 for a used Korean guitar (at that price there's USA built stuff like Carvin etc), but I know about well built overseas axes. One of my main guitars is Chinese, I paid $140 for it and it's mindblowing. Enjoy it!


you would not believe how much they overcharge for a Carvin in Korea.
In fact, pretty much all Made in USA guitars are grossly overcharged, and this changes things a bit when making a choice with limited budget.

the last two Carvin BOLT models that I saw on the used market were sold for something like 1200 USD and 1500 USD each...
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:43 AM   #13
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HNGD!


As for the bridge pickup being too dark/muddy:

That's just how the JB (or most humbuckers in general) sound with 250K pots (which you usually use in a Strat so the singlecoils don't sound shrill). There's a couple of things you can do about that:
- wire the guitar with 2 volumes (500K for the HB, 250K for the SCs and maybe a no-load 250K tone pot)
- use 500K pots and wire some capacitors to tame the treble of the SCs
- use 500K pots and swap the singlecoils for stacked/noiseless ones
- swap the humbucker for something that handles 250K pots better (although the JB is supposed to be one of the best in that category)
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:50 AM   #14
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I've always had an interest in Swing guitar but was a bit skeptical about their quality. Maybe this maybe the trigger for me to get one prety soon-ish

Congratz btw. This one looks nice.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:21 PM   #15
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:54 AM   #16
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I contacted Swing about the approximate price of an Exciter Gold and if they were available in the USA.

They're not selling them here right now, but the price is @$840. Not bad for the specs I saw.
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